It looks to me,John, as though the last act of Judas was one of
rebellion. God gives life and God takes life. When we play God we
have not died to self. Taking your own life is usurping God's
authority.
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Lost to the cause or lost personally? Don't get me wrong. I
am not trying to get Judas saved. I just don't think we know of his
personal destiny. Does God look to his apparent change of heart with
any pleasure? Well, I can't imagine God being disappointed in that
particular circumstance. Does the cross present forgiveness to all of
humanity except Judas? Wow -- that sounds a little incredible to
me.
JD
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From: Terry Clifton < wabbits1234@earthlink.net>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:40:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Adam - sin - and the rest of us
John
17:12 Those you gave me I have kept, and none of them is lost except
the son of perdition
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Speculation, my dear. If repentance is a "change of mind,"
then the return of the money is clearly a change of mind. The
suicide could very well have been an extention
of that change of heart Now, I am not saying that he was ultimately
saved. I just think that we need to be careful with our doctrine
concerning Judas. And we do have a doctrine concerning the man. If
that didache includes the notion
that He had no choice in the betrayal; if we think that he was
selected (emphasis on "selected") from the beginning to be the player
that he was and that this betrayal extended from a thorough going
inward wickedness, well, I do not agree with that.
JD
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