I believe "the blessing" in v 17 refers to the birthright. I do not believe Jacob and Esau is about spiritual values or destinies. I mean - Jacob and his mother used lies, cunning and deceit to steal the birthright from Esau.
Jd
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No, I do not agree. "Jacob have I loved, and Esau have I hated." Profane men do not inherit the kingdom of God. Furthermore, please look at the context in which Esau is being discussed. Heb. 12:15 warns men about not failing of the grace of God.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
David Miller.
----- Original Message -----From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:15 PMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Adam - sin - and the rest of usI am speaking of a repentance that might effect one's destiny, not a repentance that seeks the reversal of a legal (if you will) decision. Heb. 12:17 speaks of the birthright, not Esua;s eternal destiny -- agreed?JD
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JD wrote: > Does God look to his apparent change of > heart with any pleasure? Well, I can't imagine > God being disappointed in that particular circumstance. > Does the cross present forgiveness to all of humanity > except Judas? Wow -- that sounds a little incredible > to me. Was Judas better than Esau? Hebrews 12:16-17 (16) Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. (17) For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for HE FOUND NO PLACE OF REPENTANCE, THOUGH HE SOUGHT IT CAREFULLY WITH TEARS. Proverbs 28:5 (5) Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things. Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
