Aaahhh. Refuse to deal with the issue at hand. Ignore, ignore, ignore. At all costs, do not answer JD's questions. Do you know how to spell transparent?
Deception, for the saint, is just like any other sin issue -- we are led away BY OUR OWN LUSTS. There will be no flat foreheads in hell, Judy. There will be no honest people there. The difference between the kind of lie that finds one eventually lost and the truth that saves is more than obvious -- having, if you w ill, an ontological appeal or value. Head knowledge has nothing, per se, to do with being lost. Living for self, autonomy, serving those desires that destroy our ability to cherish good and hate the evil -- that is "being lost." Very specific wording on my part. The drug addict who cannot get off heroin but knows the difference between good and evil in his life has as much a chance for salvation as does Linda Shields.
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor &l t;jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:07:34 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus
The problem is that - IT IS POSSIBLE TO DECEIVE THE SAINTS - If this were not possible then why so
many warnings all over the NT to "Be not deceived, - God is not mocked" and "I fear lest by any means, as the
serpent deceived Eve through his sublety, so your mindsshould be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ
(2 Cor 11:3) For if some real smart theologian comes and preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached,
or if ye receive another spirit which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might
well bear with him (my paraphrase) jt
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:53:46 -0400 knpraise@aol.com writes:
Sooooooooooooooo, you just ignore the part that says, " ... mislead, if it were possible even the elect" ?If I read you correctly, you can drop those words and have the verse say exactly the same thing? So why the words?JD
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:07:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus
knpraise@aol.com wrote:================================================================I have a number of mentors. BT is the most current and, perhaps, the most significant. BT has his mentors, as well. You have yours.Secondly, the passage quoted I understood to be saying that it was not possible to to deceive the saints. That was my point. Where is the problem?JD
The problem seems to be that you could not understand the whole verse. You took from it what you wanted and ignored the
parts that shows you to be in error....again.

