Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus

[Dave Hansen]

DAVEH:  I find that an interesting response, Perry.  Why do you think it is a pure waste of time to consider what God wanted, and Lucifer frustrated?  Extrapolating that logic, it would be a waste of time for folks to talk about becoming perfect as commanded by the Lord. Perry wrote: What is the purpose of this conjecture? Adam and Eve fell, so it is a pure waste of time to conjecture otherwise. Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 08:31:18 -0700 DAVEH:  No.  But I think you must have missed the beginning of my questions to Terry.  I started with the premise of what would have happened IF A&E had not transgressed in the first place.  I assume you believe there would have been people who had sinned as well as those who had not sinned.  My curiosity is about what you folks think would have been the pertinence of Jesus coming to the earth to those who had not sinned. Judy Taylor wrote: *jt: Dave do you know of anyone other than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself - who never sinned? judyt*  On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:28:07 -0700 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes:     *Jesus loved me enough to die for me.  God's love does not appear     to be based on numbers.*     DAVEH:  I fully agree.  However, I was trying to explore a bit     further what you believe about how Jesus' sacrifice is pertinent     to anybody who had never sinned.     Terry Clifton wrote:     Boy!  I hate it when people force me to think on my time off.     It's hard enough to do it on the job.     There are those who do not sin and still die.  They are called     fetuses by those who murder them, unborn children by those who     would rather they live.  There is no way that they can sin in     thought or deed, yet they die, so sin brought death to all.     I believe that had I been the only sinner on earth, *Jesus loved     me enough to die for me.  God's love does not appear to be based     on numbers.*  One fact, one opinion.  You would have very little     trouble arguing against the opinion.  The fact is self evident.     Dave wrote:     DAVEH:  Assuming that some would not have sinned....would all     who did not sin live forever, and those who did sin would die?     And...what effect would Jesus' sacrifice be to those who did not     sin?  IOW....would Jesus have given his life for the sinners     only, and the others would not have need of anything from Jesus?     Terry Clifton wrote:     Dave wrote:     DAVEH:  I'm curious.   What do you folks believe would have     happened if A&E had not fallen?  Would their children have     been perfect, or could some have sinned while others remained     without sin?  And what effect would that have had on the world?     =================================================================     Since we all have free will to obey or disobey, any human from     Adam on could choose to sin.  As slick as the devil is and as     stupid as people are, I think it;s safe to assume that  all     would have sinned.  The world today would not be much different. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.