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Comparing "theologies" and religious teachings of men
is not my forte Lance, I'll leave that to you and others
like you. jt
Whatever gifts you may indeed possess Judy,
theological discernment is not among them. Many have pointed this out to you
during my stint on TT. I concur with them. You, on the other hand, not
surprisingly, concur with those who Amen you. What a discovery!
Lance, I agree God is gracious but not beyond
comprehension. He has given us His Word which He will not
violate. I get it. I choose not to be taken
in by it. because yours is "another gospel" with a "different
spirit"
When I speak of you 'sleeping' Judy, I refer
to your not getting it. When I speak of the sign and the sandwich board, I
refer to the non-biblical, anti-christ (non christological) gospel that
you preach. When asked for 'whom the bells tolls Judy, it tolls for
thee'
Thankfully, God is gracious beyond
comprehension (mine but apparently not yours)
Awake, thou that sleepest!! Translation:
Stop fiddling whilst Rome (America) is burning!! Western civilization
is imploding.
Wrong premise ... One does not sleep
Lance just because they do not continually lament the sad state
of a world without Christ.
You continue to spout this fundy
biblicist philosophy. It most assuredly is not the 'ALL truth' that
you have referenced over the years.
What "fundy philosophy" Lance? I
adhere to neither.. but then what does it matter what I say - What you
think is much more
important when elevated opinions are
where it is at.
Rant on if you wish, Judy. It's like the
gal in the endzone with his Jn 3:16 sign or, a gal with a sandwich
board reading 'Repent,
for the end is at hand'.
Isn't this what you have just stated
above Lance? Rebuking me for sleeping while America burns and
Western civiliation implodes
(why are you leaving out 3rd world
countries?) while I should weep with Canadians and other
liberals?
This 'stuff' is OK for the choir in your
church but, for the gal on the street it's a joke. (They would be
correct to find it amusing)'
I came from the street Lance; I didn't
hatch here at this keyboard. Let me tell you ppl who are "in
Christ" KNOW Him and His
sheep hear
HIS voice. Better make sure you are not counted with the
goats....
Why?
We have the same Word he used to
defeat the adversary and that He followed. We have also been
given the
same Spirit to empower and help us and lead
us into ALL truth or don't you
believe what is written Lance? jt
If all that Jesus did was to 'leave
us an example' then we're 'cooked'.
From what I recall you read this into
some passage in the book of Revelation JD. However if you got
someone
trained in statistics to compare the
number of those at the end to all who have ever lived what
would this percentage
look like? The walk of faith is not a list of Gk words and/or
doctrines JD so these are a moot point. We must overcome
where A&E failed. Jesus did it while in the flesh and He
left us an example - His are the steps we are to
follow. It is
working out your own salvation with
fear and trembling rather than a
religious good 'ol boy network who all subscribe
to the same self serving 'big
picture' - and that's my monologue for today.
jt
Again , you make comment that has little to do with what
I have written. At least you are
consistent.
You really like the sound of the "narrow road" thingy,
don'e you? I prefer the part that says there are
so many, they cannot be counted.
JD
From: Judy Taylor < jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
So?
We may be at different places in our
pilgrimage but are basically travelling the same road which is
the
narrow path with he strait
gate. Whereas others on TT appear to be breathing rarified air and on the
broad road ... jt
I have a definition and fully understand what "judgmentalism" is. Nothing
double tongued about it. Give me your definition and
I'll share mine. The clear reason why you Wingers
refuse to present a list of doctrines
upon which we must all agree has to do with the
impossibility of the matter -- your list, Deegan's list, Judy's list or DM's list
would not be the same !!! So you all pretend to
agree with each other while refusing, at the same time, to
offer specifics as to this mythological list.
You judge others to hell but refuse to be accountable. &n bsp; Ditto on
this definition for judgmentalism. You all cannot give
a definition that does not find yourselves at
fault.
But I already knew this.
JD -----Original
Message----- From: ShieldsFamily
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
[email protected]Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:56:19 -0500 Subject: RE:
Re: [TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecuality
How can you be so double-tongued,
JD? You accuse me of
that all the time!!! iz
I believe it is spelled "judgmentalism," Bub, and why
bring up the word anyway - no one on the right
has a clue as to its definition. Hard to accuse someone of it
when you don't know what it is.
JD -----Original
Message----- From: Kevin Deegan < openairmission@yahoo.com> To:
[email protected]Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:29:17 -0700
(PDT) Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] an argument from the gay
community for homosexuality
And your Judgemental too!
Is your Brand of HATE speech and JUDGEMENTALISM
allowed in the People's Republique of CANUCKastan?
Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin: Y'all confuse HONESTY
with HATEFULNESS. Y'all don't SPEAK, Kevin, y'all SPEW!
JD
has recognized this 'bout y'all since I bin on TT.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: September 29,
2005 15:51
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecuality
Stop being so HATEfull
Lance. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
He did indeed 'hit sin on
the head', Judy. Mostly however, he hit it on the head
with those in the 'churches' of His
day. That ring any bells with any of you out there?
(Judy, Kevin, Iz) At whom/with whom do we
see His anger most expressed? At whom/with whom do we
see the opposite? Why look, it's the very ones y'all choose to hate, demonstrate against
etc. Hmmmmmmmmmm strange hugh? Do we all read the sa
me Bible?
----- Original Message
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Sent: September
29, 2005 07:52
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for
homosecuality
Why arn't you talking about
the "gay issue?" We are supposed to minister
the way Jesus did as He is our example
and He always hit sin head on ie He confronted the rich
young ruler with his heart of covetousness which he
was not
yet willing to part with. Jesus
didn't chase after him and keep
talking about grace. He did minister to
those God showed
Him and warned them to go and sin no more
lest a worse thing come upon
them. But He didn't minister to everyone he
met.
Today we take sin so lightly because we don't believe God
means what He says or that the chaos in our lives is
rooted
in sin and unrighteousness. God is
supposed
to bless this mess because of grace, because he loves us so much and
this
is the lie. He will not do
it because to do so He would have
to violate His own Word. You can talk grace
till the cows
come home but until this person hears the
truth and is willing to repent from the heart
God will not honor your words JD.
Well, maybe God has put us
together "for such a time as this."
Right now
the
relationship is something of a
novelty -- at least for
him. My conversation with him is
different from "the others."
So, maybe I might be able to make sense to
him. What I am not doing is
talking about the gay issue, per se. He is but I am
trying to get him to stop and examine what
it means when it says that "Christ died for us
while we were YET sinners." My
concern is that he understand the gospel of
grace and , and, and, what it really mean
s to be "saved." The new birth
will produce - given
time ............... so that
is where I begin -----------&n bsp; with
the new birth. JD ====================================
I wish you
well. Terry
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