Re: NO ONE on TT has ever practiced righteousness in order to place God in debt for salvation.
Of course you have. But you have done so ignorantly, apparently. When we work (obey) we put God into our debt ----------- Romans 4:4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as a debt. Works salvationism is an attempt to manipulate God by putting into debt. I am saved because I have given product (obedience). It is an effort to bind God to His promise - In JESUS name I claim the promises of God !!! I hear that often.
On the other hand, many are saved by His unmerited and patient love and THEN they go to work -- kind of a show of appreciation.
Speaking for myself -- it not that can't go a day without sinning. Rather, it is that we WON'T. The sinfulness of those who claim to be righteous is evident here on TT in most of the posts written ----------------- I am not sure Terry is in the works crowd, but he is the exception to the rule above. He usually disagrees without being arrogant or judgmental.
JD
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit
JD, "You are the man" who misrepresents others' theology. NO ONE on TT has ever practiced righteousness in order to place God in debt for salvation. How utterly ridiculous. Anyone who thinks they can manipulate God would be insane. walkYou should be ashamed. Your fingers are certainly pointing back at you!
But, pray tell, why is it that you and Lance can only testify to your sinfulness, failures, addictions, etc, and repeatedly deny the ability of Believers to overcome sin for even ONE day??? Where is the testimony of any of you who think like that about your own personal walk in holiness??? I'd LOVE to hear all about it! Instead, whenever the subject is brought up YOU are the ones who sneer and jeer. iz
Why do you consistently misrepresent the theology? Some on this forum practice righteousness in order to place God in debt for eternal salvation and others of us practice holiness because of the relationship we have with the Christ and with each other (I might add).
No one thinks carnality is God's choice.
