I can tell that Bill believes that we are MADE righteous by the activity of Another. The instant I am "saved," I am fully and completely viewed [by God] as being righteous ------------ long before I do anything , well before I have climbed the Mountain we call Maturity and rested at its summit. God in Christ has done this for us apart from our efforts or complicity [in terms of action].
Nothing hopeless about that gospel. It is the gospel of works that is hopeless, from the fires of hell, and a heresy before the Lord (was I straight-forward enough?)
Jd
Pastor J David Smithson, BSeD, MA and GPITB
Fairbanks Ave Fellowship
Sanger, California
-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 13:54:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit
True to form, David!. The good ol' yes/no. Remember those days? Check the archives. You guys declined verbs & discussed prepositions ad nauseum. (nauseum being the operative word) Don't you remember his position on this issue? I do! In the end he couldn't join you on the 'yellow brick road'.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: October 06, 2005 13:44
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit
> Bill might not have time to present a Biblical case right now, but I would
> certainly like to hear from him as to whether or not he agrees with your
> hopele ss gospel.
>
> Bill, how about answering with a simple yes or no. Do you have the
> viewpoint that nobody is complete in Christ and that those in Christ will
> continue to sin every day?
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
>
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----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: October 06, 2005 13:44
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit
> Bill might not have time to present a Biblical case right now, but I would
> certainly like to hear from him as to whether or not he agrees with your
> hopele ss gospel.
>
> Bill, how about answering with a simple yes or no. Do you have the
> viewpoint that nobody is complete in Christ and that those in Christ will
> continue to sin every day?
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
>
> ----------
> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org
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