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The Bible IS entirely trustworthy, David. It is you
and I who are not.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: October 13, 2005 17:50
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will
never be uniformily apprehended!!!
I'm glad you clarified this. I thought maybe you had 1 John 5:8 in
mind, but deep down, I think I knew better. :-)
If you study the Scriptures a little closer, you will find that what you
attribute to man is actually attributed to the Holy Ghost. For example,
consider Heb. 3:7, which quotes a psalm, something which you apparently
attribute to man, but the author of Hebrews attributes to the Holy
Ghost.
When I hear the statement that the Bible contains truth, there is an
implication that some of it does not contain truth. The problem with
this is that it suggests the Bible is only trustworthy when one
weeds through the parts that is true and separates it from what is false
(kind of like the Thomas Jefferson approach to
the Bible). When I hear the statement that the Bible is truth,
this has the implication that there is no falsehood in the Bible (in
other words, the Bible in its entirety is trustworthy).
DM.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:53
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will
never be uniformily apprehended!!!
Of course it did. You Judy and Linda simply don't
read. I said there were at least three sources of
information in the biblical record. God "thus said the
Lord" (verses abound); Satan "thou shalt not surely
die" (you have no idea where this is found IN SCRITPURE ????) and
man ( many of the psalms.)
You, in return, offered nothing ----- once
again ----- that speaks to the issue. And you
can't.
JD -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Deegan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]Sent:
Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT
will never be uniformily apprehended!!!
So now I have to provide proof whenever you come up with another of
your baseless statements?
Your assertion contained no supporting data, why not?
Where did you learn the Bible "contains" the truth?
Thy word IS Truth JN
17:17
It is not a "message"
It does not contain truth
it is the very word of God
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Kevin, kevin, kevin
--------------- you have offered nothing for
proof. Who among us argues what is written in
17:17. The biblcial
message does present at least three sources of information. If
you need a proof text for that
, well, you're just not reading the book.
JD -----Original Message----- From:
Kevin Deegan < openairmission@yahoo. com> To: [email protected]Sent: Thu, 13
Oct 2005 04:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will
never be uniformily
apprehended!!!
Since the "scholars contains truth" crowd won't provide proof tetxts, here they are:
JN 17 :17 thy word is
((contains)) Truth
Hi Iz,
I presume that
when you wrote the following (that about which Judy responds, "what
Izzy says stands ..."), you
were asking a rhetorical question -- the answer being, Of course
not: "Can you
separate God and His ... written Word?" I would like
to challenge you to reconsider. If there is no difference, i.e., no
separation, between God and his written word, then go ahead and
pray to your Bible, for they are one in the same. You (not you
personally, but your cohorts) criticized John for suggesting that the
Bible contains the Word of God, demanding proof texts; yet you yourself
write that it is "the Truth contained within" the Bible which is holy,
and that Jesus' word speaks to you from those pages, if
you have ears to hear. Would you mind explaining to me how this is different from that which set
you (pl) off concerning John's statement?
Christians
know better than to think it's okay to pray to their Bibles, yet
with their own words, they sometimes exalt the Bible to a status
due only to God. The two are not the same: that is what Lance is saying,
and that is what John is saying, and, if I correctly apprehend your
latest comment, that is what you are saying -- Judy's kudos noted. I think we all agree. Praise the Lord!
Bill
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