On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:15:11 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Did you not see my reference to II Thess 3:15?    Did you not read of the distinction between being a family member and finding yourself saved?   Your grandson will always be your grandson, Judy.   That IS the correct answer.   Your grandson dies tomorrow.   Heaven or hell.   Now, I know you have  a difficulty answering this question, but I don't.  He goes to heaven AS A FAMILY MEMBER  -  God being his Father!!
 
JD you can't be sure of the eternal destiny of others - are you a fortune teller? The only one you can do
anything about is yourself.  2 Thess 3:15 refers to the discipline of someone in the church at Thessalonica who had apparently been in rebellion.
 
Adoption has little to do with becoming "sons of God."   Rather, it pertains to the assumption of our bodies into all that is God's world   (Ro 8:23)   God is already our Father.   Paul is already our brother. 
 
Adoption has everything to do with gentiles being grafted in to a Jewish root by faith ... The full adoption is when you know you have overcome in Christ - and BTW JD your old flesh body doesn't make it. If you do it will be with a new and transformed body.
 
Get the picture?  Jd 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
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Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 05:16:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!


On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 02:26:52 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Secondly,   and I knew that Judy was not going to answer this question  --- 
the grandson is always a member of the family.   Once a member, always a member.  
Once a son,  always a son.  
 
Nonsense, there is an "only begotten" son and there are adopted sons in God's
economy - which mould do you suppose our grandson fits?  He's not the messiah.
Many are called but few are chosen.  Meditate on that for a while JD.
 

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