-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:24:57 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

 
 
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:15:11 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Did you not see my reference to II Thess 3:15?    Did you not read of the distinction between being a family member and finding yourself saved?   Your grandson will always be your grandson, Judy.   That IS the correct answer.   Your grandson dies tomorrow.   Heaven or hell.   Now, I know you have  a difficulty answering this question, but I don't.  He goes to heaven AS A FAMILY MEMBER  -  God being his Father!!
 
JD you can't be sure of the eternal destiny of others - are you a fortune teller? The only one you can do
anything about is yourself.  2 Thess 3:15 refers to the discipline of someone in the church at Thessalonica who had apparently been in rebellion.  Of course!!  But once a brother, always a brother..............even when we are told to have nothing to do with him in terms of association.  And, like I said  --  you have confusion as to whether children are heaven bound,  I do not. 
 
Adoption has little to do with becoming "sons of God."   Rather, it pertains to the assumption of our bodies into all that is God's world   (Ro 8:23)   God is already our Father.   Paul is already our brother. 
 
Adoption has everything to do with gentiles being grafted in to a Jewish root by faith ... The full adoption is when you know you have overcome in Christ - and BTW JD your old flesh body doesn't make it. If you do it will be with a new and transformed body.   I gave you a biblical reference that says exactly what I said.   And in return,  you offer me JudySpeak  --  again.   Your brand of logic, Judy, is not equal to truth in every case.    But you use it all the time. 
 
Jd
 
Get the picture?  Jd 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 05:16:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!


On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 02:26:52 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Secondly,   and I knew that Judy was not going to answer this question  --- 
the grandson is always a member of the family.   Once a member, always a member.  
Once a son,  always a son.  
 
Nonsense, there is an "only begotten" son and there are adopted sons in God's
economy - which mould do you suppose our grandson fits?  He's not the messiah.
Many are called but few are chosen.  Meditate on that for a while JD.
 

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