What a disappointing response, Lance. I hope you pray about the importance of faith in knowing the mind of God.
BTW, it is not by works that I abstain from the destructive things of the world. It is by the Holy Spirit in my life. If He is your best friend, closer than a brother, how could you speak of Him as such an ineffectual force? My parents are my best friends in the world, and I would not say THEIR influence on me is as weak as you make the Holy Spirit's influence out to be. Their influence on me is so strong because I ALLOW them to have strong influence. Equally, by faith, I give the Lord the greatest influence over me. I submit by simple faith. I am truly, truly sorry that you do not understand this. Blessings PS- I will be signing off very soon, I have a Calculus exam on Monday. But it was great to speak with you all again. I will continue to lurk, however. :-) Lord bless you all, dear brothers and sisters. Keep fighting the good fight! --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello again, Christine. Thanks for delineating your > position, your Dad's > position and, I'd suppose one held by many. Whatever > 'works' for ya, guys. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: October 14, 2005 21:31 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On knowing the Father > through the Son by the Spirit > > > > Lance wrote: > >> Humanity and fallibility, even with the > indwelling > >> of the HS, guarantee the > >> mishandling of the Scriptures on occasion. > > > > Lance, this is a statement devoid of faith. Trust > the > > Most High God. If He says He will teach you, and > lead > > you into all truth, that is a powerful I.O.U.. I > think > > He's good for it. It's like Treasury stock. You > know > > it's a reliable investment. (I'm taking my first > > accounting class this semester, lol). > > > > That sentence is almost an irrational statement. > It's > > like me being scared to death I'm going to get > AIDS, > > even though I don't do anything to put me at risk. > > > > Equally, God told me He wants me to know His mind. > I > > know it's possible to be weak and not know Him or > > understand His word, but He's given me the means > to > > know and understand Him, just as I have the means > to > > avoid AIDS (by the godly wisdom of remaining > chaste > > and abstaining from drugs). When we lean not onto > our > > own understanding, but trust him with all our > heart, > > he will direct our path. To fret about the > obstacles > > in our path is an irrational fear, because, well, > He's > > God. That's a very lofty title, but He bears it > well. > > > > It's foolish and worthless for me to worry about > AIDS, > > when God's Holy Spirit and wisdom protects me from > > such things. Yes, it exists, just as our human > > weakness does, but He has provided the remedy: the > > Holy Spirit. Don't sell it so short, Lance. > > > > > > Blessings! > > > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> You could be no clearer than that, David. > >> > >> Please identify the one(s) who have NEVER > mishandled > >> the Scriptures on TT. > >> (dfn:to deal with something without the necessary > >> care or skill). > >> > >> Do remember, won't you, that this conversation > >> included misunderstanding and > >> misinterpretation. > >> > >> Humanity and fallibility, even with the > indwelling > >> of the HS, guarantee the > >> mishandling of the Scriptures on occasion. > >> > >> . > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: October 14, 2005 12:44 > >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On knowing the Father > >> through the Son by the Spirit > >> > >> > >> > Lance wrote: > >> >> So David, you believe my observation to be > >> >> FALSE!?? IFF you do not then say so. > >> > > >> > Yes, Lance, I believe your observation to be > >> false. I have been saying so > >> > many times. It sure has taken you a long time > to > >> see this. > >> > > >> > Lance wrote: > >> >> Put up or shut up! Opinion shminion. If I > speak > >> >> the truth on a matter and, you believe it to > be > >> so > >> >> then, speak up. This is beneath you. Petty, > >> >> petty, petty. > >> > > >> > Who's getting defensive now? Isn't it amazing > how > >> you see others as being > >> > defensive, just before you blow a gasket. > >> > > >> > You have made the assertion that everybody on > >> TruthTalk has at times > >> > mishandled the Scriptures. I can find no basis > >> for this assertion. I > >> > don't > >> > believe it. I disagree with it. Clear enough? > >> > > >> > DM. > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: October 14, 2005 10:05 > >> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On knowing the Father > >> through the Son by the > >> > Spirit > >> > > >> > > >> >> Lance wrote: > >> >>> Not one participant has proved themselves an > >> >>> exception to the occasional mishandling of > the > >> text > >> >>> soooooooooooooo then....why so defensive? > >> >> > >> >> I don't know anybody being defensive. We have > >> simply asked you to > >> >> explain > >> >> the standard by which you can judge this. You > >> have given us none, so, we > >> >> simply recognize that you have no standard but > >> yourself. Since your > >> >> standard is faulty, by your own admission, as > >> Kevin has so rightly > >> >> analyzed > >> >> the situation, your opinion should be ignored. > >> >> > >> >> The truth is that some here have never > mishandled > >> the sacred text. > >> >> > >> >> Peace be with you. > >> >> David Miller. > >> > > >> > ---------- > >> > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned > >> with salt, that you may > >> > know how you ought to answer every man." > >> (Colossians 4:6) > >> > http://www.InnGlory.org > >> > > >> > If you do not want to receive posts from this > >> list, send an email to > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be > >> unsubscribed. If you have a > >> > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an > >> e-mail to > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be > >> subscribed. > >> > > >> > >> > >> ---------- > >> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned > with > >> salt, that you may know how you ought to answer > >> every man." 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