RE: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller

[ShieldsFamily]

Dean, my friend, I have almost gotten excommunicated from TT in the past due to telling the mormons that they need to repent and get saved or they are going directly to hell.  I am not one to hold back on the truth as I see it, and never have, especially in their case.  OTOH, I refuse to get drawn into their constant squabbles about ridiculous doctrines.  God has certainly called me to other things than debating whether there are 7 foot quackers on the moon. Answer a fool as he deserves.  Sometimes that means not even entering into their repulsive nonsense. I leave that to those of you who have some hope of it doing any good. As I see it, no amount of words from any of us will save a man who refuses to repent of satanic doctrines. Only prayer and waiting on the work of the Holy Spirit will break through such blindness--arguments just provoke defensiveness. Bottom line: you can't save someone who doesn't want it. Only God knows their future state; hopefully they will repent. In the meantime I will treat them with the same truthfulness and civility that I treat any other human being. izzy   PS One favorite mormon tactic, as I see it, is getting the rest of us to argue over how to deal with them.  Don't fall into that pit.   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:12 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller         > [Original Message] > From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> > Date: 10/18/2005 10:06:59 PM > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller >  > May I take issue with that statement, Perry? If you mean that not countering > every heretical opinion is tacit acceptance I must disagree. We can't spend > our entire lives disagreeing with heretical statements or that would be all > we would ever do.  I think when the opportunity arises for us to speak up we > should take it, as I believe everyone on TT has done regarding the mormon > issue.  But to contradict each statement they make is not my calling. > Perhaps, indeed, it is yours--but I know I have not been called to do that. > You can ask DaveH if he is aware of my stance on his beliefs, but I'd guess > he is quite aware.  izzy   cd; Sister I write this with great respect toward you and by no means do I want to take away from what you are-but the refusal to debate every point of a pagan is a far cry from calling one brother or supporting a pagan to moderate this site in a position of authority( I know you know this and watched him play on you emotions even after you first said that "you would cross that bridge when you came to it").It does not do Dave H. (nor you) any good to allow him to believe that he is one of God's heirs and hence has salvation-when in fact he is a poor- miserable- naked- lost man with no hope at all without conforming to the word of God.After the first billion years in hell the fire doesn't cool down and the worm doesn't die-even though DaveH doesn't believe in hell-so how is he saved from something her doesn't even believe in? He has this one life now and God put him with us-follow you directive.Rebuke them so they will know to fear God.  1 Tim.5:21 Those that continue in sin,rebuke in the presence of all,so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning. 21 I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of his chosen angels, to maintain these principles without bias, doing nothing in the spirit of partiality (ASV). >        ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org   If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.