I read you loud and clear.
JD
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From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:22:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller
I think it is important to understand that in the "knowing," there is always the possibility of being wrong.
DAVEH: I know that Jesus Christ is my Savior and Redeemer. I think you know that as well, John.....but as you suggest below....you could be wrong! :-\
Yes.....I do understand your point. Though I realize (even before you pointed it out below) that other TTers feel the same way....I specifically used those words what I know is correct to make a point....I do hope the other TTers (including you, JD) understand that point.
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DAVEH: I know that Jesus Christ is my Savior and Redeemer. I think you know that as well, John.....but as you suggest below....you could be wrong! :-\
Yes.....I do understand your point. Though I realize (even before you pointed it out below) that other TTers feel the same way....I specifically used those words what I know is correct to make a point....I do hope the other TTers (including you, JD) understand that point.
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DH, you are no different than any others on this list when it comes to this statement --- So, why is anybody surprised that I do not readily adopt doctrines I find contrary to what I know is correct? I think it is important to understand that in the "knowing," there is always the possibility of being wrong. When we say we know, we do not know as we ought to know. If we are not open to honest review, our bias is our god.Jd
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:45:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller
DAVEH: Of course Izzy is right on this. I fully understand the disbelief of LDS theology by TTers. I also realize that the things I believe may seem quite unusual, to say the least, to most TTers. Nor do I expect any TTers to believe as I do, excepting other LDS folks at the times they are subscribed to TT.
I must say that there are some things I've assumed Protestants believe, but I've found to the contrary due to what I've learned on TT. That is one of the things I enjoy about TT....it gives me a truly different per spective on Protestantism than what I had expected due t o hearing about it from LDS biased people.
So.......I guess it surprises me that while I understand your reluctance to accept those things I believe, I am (or was) somewhat perplexed to find some TTers have a difficult time with a Mormon in their midst. I'm not quite sure why they perceive the threat to be so dangerous, even when some like Perry and Dean have taken the effort to explain their fears. If I were trying to get any TTers alone in a room and horsewhip them into submission, that would be one thing. But I've tried to be as polite and careful about influencing others' beliefs here as possible. Perhaps some don't feel that way, but that's how I view it.
If any TTers want to continue believing that which they now believe....that's OK with me, and I will respect your desire to believe contrary to me . But it sure does seem to stir up controversy when the shoe is on the other foot. I've plainly made my intentions to remain LDS common knowledge. So, why is anybody surprised that I do not readily adopt doctrines I find contrary to what I know is correct?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
>May I take issue with that statement, Perry? If you mean that not countering
>every heretical opinion is tacit acceptance I must disagree. We can't spend
>our entire lives disagreeing with heretical statements or that would be all
>we would ever do. I think when the opportunity arises for us to speak up we
>should take it, as I believe everyone on TT has done regarding the mormon
>issue. But to contradict each statement they make is not my calling .
>Perhaps, indeed, it is yours--but I know I have not been called to do that.
>You can ask DaveH if he is aware of my stance on his beliefs, but I'd guess
>he is quite aware. izzy >
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke
>Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:28 PM
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>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller
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>Allowing heresy to go unchallenged is tacit acceptance. In this respect we
&g t;are all guilty, in cluding myself.
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