If I lack insight and make wrong assumptions, Dave, set me straight. You
will not talk about Temple rituals because you have taken oaths not to, and
have been told of the penalties that you will endure of you reveal them,
like having your throat cut from ear to ear, or having you belly cut and
your intestines spilled on the ground (if I am in error heere please correct
me by revealing tthe correct penalties), just like the Masons (who
incorporated gripd, signs, tokens, and epnealties long before JS was a
mason) from which parts of the mormon temple ceremonies were copied. So, I
must rely on ex-mormons who have been brought into the light, left the
mormon cult, and now reveal the rituals that are performed inside the
temple. The mormon temple rites are no different than any secret
organization...the cultic structure is very obvious. So, if you don't know
what "pay lay ale" means, then I guess I must turn to those who do, and will
admit it.
The only truth is the Word of God, Dave, something the mormons pay lip
service to, but set aside for the works of the false prophet JS. You can
certainly tell me all day that I do not have the truth, but can you
demonstrate that?
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:19:03 -0700
DAVEH: It is posts like this that confirm my presumption that you lack
understanding, perception and truth, Perry. I understand your need to
/wing it/, so to speak, in an effort to by chance hit a soft spot in my
armor. Instead, as I see it by making incorrect assumptions, you are
simply proving your lack of insight.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
My ultimate concern is that if you are raising your hands and chanting
words that you do not understand, you may be invoking that which you
presume you are not. That is the key to whom you owe your allegiance. If
you are not sure, or do not know exactly what that means, where it came
from, what language it is in, and to whom you are praying when you do
that, then when you get to the deepest part of your ritual, in the deepest
part of your temple, and perform signs and chant those words, nothing else
said or believed outside of that moment defines your religion. You are
invoking who you invoke.
On the other hand, if you know that you are invoking Satan, or anyone
or anything other than God, and you wish to do that, then I have no
argument with your faith. You are free to do that as long as you know what
you are doing, and choose to continue it. (Actually, you are free to do it
blindly, too, if you wish. But if you are, pleading ignorance at your
jusgement will not be a valid excuse, "...they [men] are without excuse" -
Romans 1).
You and millions of other mormons may not really know what is going on
at that moment. You may be doing it just because someone told you that is
the thing to do, or because you think, "If it happens in the temple it
can't be wrong". Think again, Dave. Think about exactly what is it that
you are doing and saying at that moment. If your leaders cannot answer the
questions with certainty and proof of their meaning, rather than with
side-steps and cute answers, then you just may be paying homage to
something other than the God you think you are invoking. Do you know for
sure? Your burning bosom can't answer that question. I will pray for your
deliverance, and the deliverance of your family, and all mormons, that the
veil of darkness will be lifted and the light of Jesus Christ will shine
in.
Perry
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