Lance,

While the central issue may be WHO IS JESUS, the problem lies in the fact that the mormon jesus has many characteristics that distinguish him from the biblical Jesus. Same for the mormon god and the biblical God. The mormons claim they are the same, but I (and just about any other Christian who has done the groundwork to examine the differences) do not believe they are the same.

These differences boil down to their acceptance of "additional revelation" from their prophet that assigns characteristics to the mormon jesus that are not characteristic of the biblical Jesus.

Now, due to external inconsistency in the mormon works, internal inconsistency in the mormon works, the total lack of archaeological evidence fot the Bom, the occultic nature of their temple ritual, nconsitistencies and changes that have been made in the Bom, the false prophecies of thier prophet, the self-serving nature of the polygamy edict, and how all of this together totally goes against the Biblical model, I cannot accept the extra-biblical mormon works as scripture, or anything more than a tragic deception.

My rantings with Dave, I feel, are not directly with Dave himself, but are a direct confrontation with Satan, not in Dave, not of Dave, but speaking through Dave via his prophet. When I hear him espouse mormon philosophy on this forum that contradicts Christianity, I am revolted, and must respond. Dave is not a bad guy...he is just a "company man". He is a statistic in the spiritual tragedy called mormonism.

Perry


From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:17:46 -0400

MAY ANSWER IS (stage direction: everyone stops what they're doing and, with rapt attention looks to the speaker - Lance) You've obviously not been attentive to my engagement with the Mormons on TT. The periphoral issues are, IMO, not worth the attention being paid them. I believe the central issue to be: WHO IS JESUS? I've attempted to speak to it on several occasions. Should one theologically literate Mormon believer decide to do so (address that issue) I believe that the matter could be put to rest once and for all.


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Actually, Lance, the question was about YOU. "Will YOU stand by and do nothing?" Trying to redirect the focus of that question to me does not answer the question. Well? What is your answer?

Perry


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Given the pedantic redundancy of your intermittent commentary Perry, IFO view it as pretty much doing nothing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Lance, what if Dave is deceived and is indeed paying homage to Satan without knowing it. Will you stand by and do nothing? At this moment in my life I cannot do that.

From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:45:56 -0400

Of course you are correct Dave. They wish to discredit LDS theology but, with your assistance. Why give it? It'd be nuts.
  ----- Original Message -----
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DAVEH: Nor has my implied answer been clear to you. I've previously said I would not discuss our Temple ceremonies, nor do I want to discuss LDS theology with anti-Mormons. Did you not understand that I consider it futile to due business with an anti-Mormon? As I see it, anti-Mormons are not seeking truth, they are seeking to attack.

  Charles Perry Locke wrote:
    Dave,

      Perhaps my question has not been clear...

      What does "Pay Lay Ale" mean?

If we are going to do business your way than lay your cards face up on the table.

    Perry




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