All of the doctrines of the Church are demonstratably Evolutionary.
That is why the 1830 BoM does not even include most of the unique doctrines held today. Very interesting is the development of the priesthood doctrine. We have testimony outside of the standard works http://www.greaterthings.com/Topical/DavidWhitmer.htm showing it was not brought into the church until around 1832
"This matter of 'Priesthood,' since the days of Sydney Rigdon, has been the great hobby and stumbling-block of the Latter Day Saints. Priesthood means authority; and authority is the word we should use. I do not think the word priesthood is mentioned in the New Covenant of the Book of Mormon. Authority is the word we used for the first two years in the church--until Sydney Rigdon's days in Ohio. This matter of the two orders of priesthood in the Church of Christ, and lineal priesthood of the old law being in the church, all originated in the mind of Sydney Rigdon. He explained these things to Brother Joseph in his way, out of the old Scriptures, and got Joseph to inquire, etc. He would inquire, and as mouthpiece speak out the revelations just as they had it fixed up in their hearts....according to the desires of the heart, the inspiration comes, but it may be the spirit of man that gives it.... This is the way the High Priests and the
'priesthood' as you have it, was introduced into the Church of Christ almost two years after its beginning--and after we had baptized and confirmed about two thousand souls into the church." (An Address To All Believers In Christ, by David Whitmer p. 64)
SO....
The Book of Commandments being 1833 HAS NOT ONE Priesthood Revelation even though they supposedly happened years earlier!
Revelations that were recieved in 1830 did not appear until the 1835 D&C
"I never heard one word of John the baptist, or of Peter, James, and John's visit and ordination till I was told some year afterward in Ohio." Apostle William E. McLellin
A much more believable understanding would be that the revelations were created at a later date and inserted into the record. We have testimony to that fact in these two places.
1) One only need compare some Revelations, that are in the BC to those same ones in the DC to see the books have been cooked!
2) "You have CHANGED THE REVELATIONS from the way they were first given and as they are today in the Book of Commandments, to support the error of Brother Joseph in taking upon himself the office of Seer to the church. You have changed the revelations to support the error of high priests. You have changed the revelations to support the error of a President of the high priesthood, high counselors, etc. You have altered the revelations to support you in going beyond the plain teachings of Christ in the new covenant part of the Book of Mormon." (An Address To All Believers In Christ, p. 49) NOTE check the revelation that says joe was only given the power to translate in the BC that one had to be fixed real quick.
"The important details that are missing from the 'full history' of 1834 are likewise missing from the Book of Commandments in 1833. The student would expect to find all the particulars of the Restoration in this first treasured set of 65 revelations, the dates of which encompassed the bestowals of the two Priesthoods, but they are conspicuously absent... The notable revelations on Priesthood in the Doctrine and Covenants before referred to, Sections 2 and 13, are missing, and Chapter 28 gives no hint of the Restoration which, if actual, had been known for four years. More than four hundred words were added to this revelation of August, 1829 in Section 27 of the Doctrine and Covenants, the additions made to include the names of heavenly visitors and two separate ordinations. The Book of Commandments gives the duties of Elders, Priests, Teachers, and Deacons and refers to Joseph's apostolic calling but there is no mention of Melchezedek Priesthood, High Priesthood, Seventies, High Priests, nor High Councilors. These words were later inserted into the revelation on Church organization and government of April, 1830, making it appear that they were known at that date, but they do not appear in the original, Chapter 24 of the Book of Commandments three years later. Similar interpolations were made in the revelations known as Sections 42 and 68." (Problems in Mormon Text, by La Mar Petersen, pp. 7-8)
Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks for the extensive demonstration of my point, Kevin. Looks to me like
the mormons, at least according to the Bom, are Trinitarians. Or "were".
When do you think the mormon apostasy occured and they began to deny the
Trinity? I guess that makes mormons today apostate in their own religion.
That is an intersting situation.
Perry
>From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know
>Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 05:14:07 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>It was not a matter of a few "biased" people believing in the Trinity
>
>
>
>Thye following Standard Work shows the Trinity and that there is ONE God.
>(Nowhere in the BoM or anywhere else does it say "One in purpose"
>
>
>
>Mosiah 15:1,5 I would that ye should understand that God himself shall come
>down among the children of men,...
>
>And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the
>Father, being one God
>
>(Notice the contrast of Son-Flesh Father - Spirit)
>
>
>
>Alma 11:28-29 Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he
>answered, No.
>
>
>
>Alma 11:44 every thing shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is
>now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar
>of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one
>Eternal God
>
>
>
>2 Nephi 31:21 And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the way; and
>there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be
>saved in the kingdom of God. And now, behold, this is the doctrine of
>Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and
>of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen.
>
>
>
>The Father is a Spirit!
>
>Alma 18:2 Behold, is not this the Great Spirit who doth send such great
>punishments upon this people, because of their murders?
>
>
>Alma 18:24-29And Ammon began to speak unto him with boldness, and said unto
>him: Believest thou that there is a God? And he answered, and said unto
>him: I do not know what that meaneth. And then Ammon said: Believest thou
>that there is a Great Spirit? And he said, Yea. And Ammon said: This is
>God. And Ammon said unto him again: Believest thou that this Great Spirit,
>who is God, created all things which are in heaven and in the earth? And he
>said: Yea
>
>
>
>22:8-11 And now when Aaron heard this, his heart began to rejoice, and he
>said: Behold, assuredly as thou livest, O king, there is a God. And the
>king said: Is God that Great Spirit that brought our fathers out of the
>land of Jerusalem? And Aaron said unto him: Yea, he is that Great Spirit,
>and he created all things both in heaven and in earth. Believest thou this?
>And he said: Yea, I believe that the Great Spirit created all things, and I
>desire that ye should tell me concerning all these things, and I will
>believe thy words.
>
>
>
>More available upon request.
>
>
>
>Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>Dave wrote:
>
> > BTW.....It is not altogether surprising that some early Mormons
> >believed it [the Trinity], as most of them came from Protestant stock,
>and
> >would have been versed (and biased) in Protestant doctrines.
>
>It was not a matter of a few "biased" people believing in the Trinity...I
>understand that the Trinity was taught in official church educational
>materials. In the front of the Bom, there is a statement that affirms the
>Trinity (unless it has been changed since I got my version!) Unless I am
>mistaken they distinctly state that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one
>God. That sure sounds like the Trinity to me!
>
>Perry
>
>
>----------
>"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may
>know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
>http://www.InnGlory.org
>
>If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a
>friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
>http://mail.yahoo.com
----------
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
