cd: I think at this point we need to clarify what part of the law are you speaking of? The Mosaic law in it's entirety? The dietary law? The sacrificial Law? The priestly law? The moral law as in the ten commandments?
Pete responds: The whole Law. All of it. cd: I have the tendance to think that because of continuance in sin God will say: " I will not fellowship with that person any longer (ie.a sad day). Balaam wanted both the riches of the world and God which lead to his rejection. Esau also enjoyed sin and cried for a place of repentance and was giving none.God's choice brother for the over the limit fee not ours. Pete responds: Consequences of his actions forbade Esau from receiving forgiveness. God knows the hearts of men and will determine when a man has crossed the barrier of no return. cd: The words of" walking in the flesh" for me means to act as the world acts in a sinful manner-or following the old desires not the new desires of the Holy Spirit. Paul stated that he did the things he didn't want to do and failed to do the things that he wanted to do-but I don't believe Paul was a liar ,fornicator, or any type of practicing sinner. I simple believe Paul wanted to do more for God -by his works-and felt he has failed to do more.For me the flesh isn't sinful but to walk in that manner is sinful. Pete responds: OK. I agree with you in that walking in the flesh is a worldly thing. We'll just leave it at that. cd: Then why does the verse admonish us to "stand fast" as not to be entangled again in the yoke of bondage?What is this "yoke of bondage" if it not the breaking of the moral Law?The keeping of the law is instrumental in keeping one relationship with God or the admonishment wouldn't be there Peter. The very meaning of the word righteous is to be right by the law-so how can the unrighteous be called righteous. Can one be called a Homo sexual-Christian? What then is the unrighteous if not a practicing sinner?Again faith get us there in Christ but one cannot demand faith as a covering for his future works? Romans 3:31:"Do we then void the law thru faith? God forbid: yea we establish the law". We are justified by faith therefore I cannot boast on my ability of obtaining salvation. But I can boast of The Holy Spirit's ability to convict me and my ability to be subject to that Spirit. I can boast of being a Christian and be proud of it. BY my subjection I establish the law Pete responds: I don't think we disagree here. We might be saying the same thing. As stated before, my justification is not in keeping the Law, but in knowing that Christ's blood has cleansed all of my sins. I keep my self pure by walking in the Spirit, which by your definition could result in keeping the Law. Correct me if I am wrong in my assertion. cd: Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yields yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are; whether of sin unto death,or of obedience unto righteousness? Consider the word "obedience" and out part of keeping the law.1 Cor. 9:21...but under the law of Christ,). There is yet a law to be under Peter. Pete responds: The Law of Christ is not the Law of Moses. Again, I do not wish to split hairs, but we are under a new covenant. The book of Hebrews is clear about the blood of Jesus and the establishing of a new covenant. Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: When you were born again, did God move in your life and change your heart? Did the light that shined in heart reveal to you the magnitude of His love for you? Did the forgiveness that you received make you a more forgiving person? The Law did not establish those things in my heart, only Christ did. The Law was a beacon showing me what was separating me from God. Brother, if you are preaching that we need to stop sinning, preach on. I am not in disagreement with you. Please consider this, if a person stops sinning and does not have the blood of Jesus covering their life, the person is still unregenerate. cd: Yet the breaking of the law can break your relationship with God -so logic would dictate your actions (ie.works,deeds) in the keeping of the Law is important relating to sustaining your relationship with God. Tell me how does one "live righteous"? Pete responds: By walking in the Spirit according to Galatians 5. Pete ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
