Sooooo,
you like it because it is all wrong ??? !!!! I strive to be
well thought of by all men, but this was not what I had in mind !!
What of plucking out the eye and cutting off the hand thingy?
Perfection is no more a command than the imperatives
inherent in "faith to move
mountains" or "walk on water" or those examples mentioned above.
Those who do not believe in unmerited grace as a MUST event
on the part of God have no choice, as I see it, but to admit failure
unless and until the time comes when one can walk on water, move
mountains, and become as perfect as the Father. To explain away the
literal a pplication of praying in a closet without allowing f
or the same type of explanation of "be ye perfect as the Father is
perfect" sets up an inconsistency that emboldens only bias, but is not
very helpful from a hermeneutical point of view.
And there are exegetical considerations , as well. But
(1) since textual criticism is not a part of Mormon
scholarship and (2) only dirty rotten liberals assert the value of an ordered and viable hermeneutic as is witnessed here on TT,
we will leave the discussion as is.
The Bishop
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From: Dave
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law
DAVEH:
Good answer, Bishop. I rather like it. Though it is an erroneous
argument, as walking on water, moving mountains, etc.....are
not
commandments, but effects of what could be IF one has enough faith.
Praying in a closet is not exactly a commandment either, but rather an
admonition to pray with a proper attitude.
May I assume you agree that the Lord did command us to be perfect?
And as a related question, may I also assume you agree that the Lord
has commanded us to be sinless?
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Not at all. Nothing wrong with goals that are not
attainable in a practical sense of the word. it happens all the the
time in real life. Walked on water lately?? Moved any mountains
????? Uprooted any trees ?? No one in your church deserving of
having his hand cut off or his eye plucked out? When was the last
time you got in your closet and prayed? Put "sinless perfection" in
this category and you have something of a viable context for figuring
out what Christ was doing in the Sermon -- other than establishing
a New Order of events in His quest to fix Legalism
as the means to salvation.
JD
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From: Dave
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Sent: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:33:46 -0800
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ and the Law
DAVEH:
If that is not possible, then why the commandment to do so? Mt
5:48........
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven
is perfect.
.........Doesn't it seem odd to have a commandment that is not
obtainable?
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And you will never be as perfect as the Heavenly Father,
Jd
