Terry   --  our disagreement over the place of "catch up" is the difference between "push" and "pull."  
I have preached and taught for years that what gets us saved, keeps us saved.   I obey nothing because I have to.  My obedience is Spirit filled and Spirit led  --   I am constrained by love (as Paul puts it).   All of us here on TT believe in obedience.  If the obedience is not in response to the promised inwardness,  the partnership and Being of God Himself in our lives,  it is a waste of time. 
 
I can't imagine anyone disagreeing with this. 
 
Jd 
 
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From: Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:45:38 -0600
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

We are positionally perfected by the shed blood of the sacrifice made for our sins, John.  The Father sees us as perfect as He sees the Son.  We, however, are still playing catch up, trying to live up to our position.  Obviously, everyone on this list is still a few steps behind and working to gain ground, not to be saved but to keep from being such an embarrassment to our Lord.
There is our position, and there is what we see when we examine ourselves.
Terry
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
.Your comments are appreciated.  Let me reiterate in this wise: 
 
 
 
 When you see the word "perfected," as used in Heb 10:14, what does that mean to you.  How are we to understand that we "have been perfected for ever by Christ?"    
 
 
Secondly,  with this verse in mind,  how have we been perfected for all time while being in the process of continuing sanctification? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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