Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

[Judy Taylor]

Bill how do you reconcile your opinion with the fact that the works were finished from the foundation of the world? (Hebrews 4:3) or is this just the KJV misleading us again?   On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:36:35 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sure, a present tense verb conveys an action that is not yet complete; in other words, it is not yet a past tense. As I said before, it is unfortunate that the KJV misled you here, understandable though it may be, but now you need to move on to accepting that the original language posits this participle as a present passive.   Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor What say ye Bill? Skip the GREEK just shine on us the EXPOSITION of the ENGLISH below:   Do you agree that this participle in Heb 10.14 reflects a sanctification which is passive (i.e., the action is being performed by someone other than the subject) and not yet complete?  Bill Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, then if this is so I don't agree with Bill on that point either.  We've moved on from bulls and goats; the blood of the eternal sacrifice is once and for all time.   On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:57:08 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The subject of the sentence 10:14 is the ONE OFFERING so Bill is saying it is "Not yet Complete" Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't speculate on all that Bill because in my understanding the active part of sanctification requires the cooperation of the one being sanctified; the kind of cooperation an unbeliever would be unable to give.   On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:11:28 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: That's fine, Judy, but who in this discussion has argued that to sanctify does not mean the same as to set apart? That is not even a point of contention. Do you agree that this participle in Heb 10.14 reflect a sanctification which is passive (i.e., the action is being performed by someone other than the subject) and not yet complete?  Bill From: Judy Taylor   I have no idea what you are talking about Bill.  However I do understand Hebrews 10:14 and the word "sanctified" in this instance means "set apart" in the same way that an unbelieving wife is "set apart" in 1 Cor 7:14 which is "set apart in the sense that she is become the object of focus because of the faith and influence of her husband.  It would be impossible for her to be sanctified in any other sense because she remains unregenerated and dead in her trespass and sin.   On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 05:50:27 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Fair enough. Do you accept the present passive thrust of this verb? My impression is that you do not.   Bill From: Judy Taylor   Are you living in some kind of delusion Bill? My understanding of that text remains the same as it was, so please let's deal with reality here rather than presumption.  jt                                            judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4)                                            judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4) Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.                                            judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4) Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.                                            judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4)