Yet more arrogant drivel.
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that he
ain't got it in 'em
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:51:05 -0800
DAVEH: Forgive me for intruding on your reply to Lance, Perry. But it
seems appropriate for me to comment on your public comments regarding me.
*the principle I was taught is that when you offend someone you
apologize...even if you didn't mean to, even if you were joking, even if
you think they are faking offense, apologizing is the right thing to do.
Izzy got it. Kevin got it. Evidently arrogant people don't get it. *
DAVEH: If Kevin and other TTers *get it*, then why do they continue to
offend LDS people by waving (both figuratively and literally) their
underwear in their faces, Perry? Evidently some of the street preachers
really don't *get it*.
*I have not generally maligned the man.*
DAVEH: Of course not, Perry. Let's see.....Who was it that suggested I am
Satan's messenger boy? :-\
* It is that has insulted most all on this forum by arrogantly stating that
"he is not here to learn the truth, he is here to learn what protestants
believe".*
DAVEH: Yes, it can be safely said that I am here to learn what Protestants
*believe*....Apparently some Protestants (and non-Ps for that matter)
*believe* it is OK to live by a double standard. I can see why that would
offend those TTers.....it's tough being a hypocrite and having this pointed
out, eh Perry.
*he has said he is here to learn, but after being told over and over, he
fails to learn.*
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree with your conclusion, Perry. You and a few
other TTers have taught me well, and I feel it is not only my right, but
also my duty to repay you whenever the opportunity presents itself. That's
exactly why I respond as I do. If you don't quite understand what I am
saying, ask yourself why I respond to most other TTers so much differently
than I do you and a few other's who feel justified in attacking my beliefs.
If you don't have a clue, ask some of the other TTers who don't have a
beam in their eye.
*he has said he is not here to teach, then has proselytized us with his
satan inspired faith*
DAVEH: Of course you.....*have not generally maligned the man*....., 'ave
you, Perry.
*when they have been offended, he has rationalized his behavior, while
belittling the offended.*
DAVEH: ??? You don't enjoy being belittled, Perry? Gosh....for a guy
who enjoys dishing it out, you sure get awfully sensitive when the shoe is
on the other foot. I thought a guy who likes to play hardball would be a
little less whiny when he is taking more strikes than hits.
*When claims are made about his behavior, his memory is bad, but when he
wants to make claims against others, his memory is restored. *
DAVEH: LOL.....Look at the logic of what you are saying, Perry. Yes,
my memory is fully restored when I can search for and post the exact quotes
to back up my claims, which is something you apparently feel no need to do.
Why do you think it is OK to make a (false) claim and then expect it to
stand with absolutely no evidence? If you want to accuse somebody of
something, you'd better be able to back it up with evidence or eat crow,
Perry.
*And, it was HE who changed the subject line of the posts in question to
"Izzies Sexual Experiences".*
DAVEH: Caught your attention, didn't it! :-[
It simply amazes me that some TTers can post all kinds of demeaning
stuff about me or my beliefs and you simply turn a blind eye to it. Maybe
that's because you participate in such, and fail to recognize it when
others do it.
/* He has taken the words of others and intentionally twisted them to mean
something else, then posted them.*/
DAVEH: LOL......In case you haven't figured it out yet, Perry....I'm not
one to cry to the moderator (not that it would do much good in this Forum)
about other's picking on me, but rather I merely do what you suggested
above. Was it Izzy that at one time suggested, /what's good for the
goose is good for the gander/? That's right.....I'll admit to reworking
the words of some TTers and reposting them to point out their hypocrisy.
Are you feeling a twinge of guilt over that, Perry? FWIW.....I
don't....not one iota.
/*He is the one who twisted Dean's call for moderation, to suggesting that
I might know something of Izzies sexual experiences. HE is the one with the
perverse mind. HE is the one who does not know where to draw the line on
his so-called humor. And HIS response is an arrogant rationalaztion that it
is okay for him to say these things, and for us to be opffended?
*/Perry's subsequent revision: "and for us to be opffended" should be
"_/*but not for us to be offended*/_"
DAVEH: Ask yourself who is really offended by what I posted, Perry. I
suggest that it is the same ones who will be offended by this post....the
hypocrites of TT.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Lance, *the principle I was taught is that when you offend someone you
apologize...even if you didn't mean to, even if you were joking, even if
you think they are faking offense, apologizing is the right thing to do.
Izzy got it. Kevin got it. Evidently arrogant people don't get it. *
While I have railed heavily against Dave's faith, *I have not generally
maligned the man.* But, having been given this door of opportunity, let me
say how I really feel...
It is not that Dave is a mormon. That is an unfortunate coincidence. It is
that he has behaved arrogantly.* It is that has insulted most all on this
forum by arrogantly stating that "he is not here to learn the truth, he is
here to learn what protestants believe".* It is that *he has said he is
here to learn, but after being told over and over, he fails to learn.* It
is that *he has said he is not here to teach, then has proselytized us
with his satan inspired faith*. It is that he levies his often tasteless
humor on others, but *when they have been offended, he has rationalized
his behavior, while belittling the offended.* /* He has taken the words of
others and intentionally twisted them to mean something else, then posted
them.*/ *When claims are made about his behavior, his memory is bad, but
when he wants to make claims against others, his memory is restored. *
*And, it was HE who changed the subject line of the posts in question to
"Izzies Sexual Experiences".* /*He is the one who twisted Dean's call for
moderation, to suggesting that I might know something of Izzies sexual
experiences. HE is the one with the perverse mind. HE is the one who does
not know where to draw the line on his so-called humor. And HIS response
is an arrogant rationalaztion that it is okay for him to say these things,
and for us to be opffended?*/ Back off, Elder Muir!
Perry
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [TruthTalk] Charles Perry Lock says 'A totally arrogant and
insensitive reply, IMO' of Dave Hansen
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:53:48 -0500
I have a sense of DaveH that he ain't got it in 'em but, should anyone's
door need showin' up at ...well...it's pretty obvious to me who they'd
be. He's been spoken to and about with ill intent pretty much daily. As
Tom Snyder used to say of people who behave like you guys have..'go to a
mirror, look into it and, call yourself...(guess)
IMO Perry, you're doing this more because he's a Mormon than because of
what he purportedly meant by what he said.
Iz rather graciously acknowledged her own participation and, requested
that you let this go. Why not do that, Perry?
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