What ARE we talking about?    Dean's life or Dean's theology of violence?    
 
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From: Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:57:10 -0800
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect.

And what about the rest of Dean's life? 
 
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>Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:54:59 -0500 

>And what of the rest of His life? What of His death without resistance? > How did he deal with those who were about to stone the adultness woman? >What was His attitude toward the Roman pagan slim that held the People of >God in bondage? When Peter attacked the Roman soldier in the Garden -- >what about that. What of the fact that we have no other examples of >violence on the part of Christians in the NT scriptures? What of Stephen >as he was being stoned? What of Stephens prayer? Wha t of Christ's >statement about living by the sword? Or of hate toward the others? 

>at the temple -- you don't know what went on in that circumstance except >that he took a whip and drove the money changers away. Did He whip the >money changer or their animals? Did He hit anyone? Why didn't someone >hit him, Perry? Maybe the whip was for THAT reason - self protection >as he turned over the tables? That would square much more readily with >His speech and example than any other opinion. But go ahead and make >more of the Temple than you can possibly know and then make a rule of >conduct out of this single incident. "I believe He did it once in His >life which gives me the right to violence when I see fit.' Some of these >weirdos even believe it is God's call to kill in the name of the Lord (ala >Paul Hill.) 

>Jesus Christ was not a violent man AND ANYONE WHO BELIEVES OTHERWISE IS >MORE CONFUSED than any claim against the Mormons. 

>You want to develop a theology of confrontation that includes such ignorant >activity as the underwear thing, will, no one can stop you. You want to >get violent with those on this list -- actually that can be stopped. 

>JD 

>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Sent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:14:42 -0800 
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect. 


>Was Jesus being holy when he made a whip and kicked the money lenders from >the temple? Was he being holy when he spoke to the pharisees and accused >them of having Satan as their father? Dean has a pretty high-level example, >wouldn't you say? 

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> >To: [email protected] 
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect. 
> >Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:09:59 -0500 
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> >Holiness has everything to do with how you treat people and your manner >of >speech - among other things. Threatening your opponent with physical > >violence is hardly a sign of holiness. 
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> >From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [email protected] 
> >Sent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 14:07:23 -0800 (PST) 
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect. 
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> >Knowing Dean personally, he is not one to feign anything. 
> >He is deeply concerned with holiness and I believe I can testify that he > >lives it too. 
> >I would not assume anything as far as the mat either. 
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> >Like I said -- and it is becoming even more obvious: this is not about > >anything but Dean making it clear that he is the toughest guy on the >block. > You want to come out here? We can go to the North Gym and roll >around >on the mat for awhile. I could use a good work out partner. As far >as >making you shut up -- probably not possible. 
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> >You are welcome to come to the house. In spite of the rhetoric, I think > >it would actually wind up being a good experience. Bring your wife and > >suitable attire for the gym. We can make the arrangements off line. 
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> >But stop with the feigned distress over the DH-Izzy situation. You are > >accomplishing absolutely no good whatsoever. 
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> >jd 
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> >-----Original Message----- 
> >From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [email protected] 
> >Sent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:08:49 -0500 
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect. 
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> >Sent: 11/26/2005 9:35:52 AM 
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect. 
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> >First , your last sentence sounds like any number of people I know. > >Secondly - I am a husb and who would defend his wife even to the point of > >violence. I missed the part where DH spoke to Linda as if she were a > >whore. Where was that statement? DUH-Tell us of your sexual experiences > >Izzy-Duh And why are you taking offense at something for which Linda is > >not? Simple you don't talk to women like that around me-and then there >are >the sinful overtone. Finally, you have offered advice to a women >(Linda) >who has asked us all to move on. Did you miss that point? Sooooo, >why >don't you take her advice and butt out.Did she advice me to butt out- >or >are you lying again? Why don't you make me butt out mouth. 
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> >Jd 
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> >From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [email protected] 
> >Sent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:05:3 6 -0500 
> >Subject: [TruthTalk] Dave's Disrespect. 
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> > cd:My advice is for Izzy to show this to here husband-and let him > >resolve this matter. Then the snake in the grass will learn respect for a > >decent women and not to try and speak to her as one would a whore. He is > >not sorry for anything-as he has no morality.Don't even know right from > >wrong and apparently neither does a few others on this list-no >discernment >even to seeing no 
> > problem with asking a women such questions-even another mans wife-evil > >wicked hearted people claiming to be children of God that cannot even > >receive the milk of the word-and yet defend their ignorance with more > >ignorance. > [Original Message] > From: Charles Perry Locke > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ; Date: > >11/25/2005 11:06:37 AM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual > >Experiences-Charles? > > > John, Izzy opened the door, and has realized > >that and apologized for it > (maybe you missed that post). It was DH that > >walked through that door and > took it to the gutter. > > Perry > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: > >[email protected] > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual > >Experiences-Charles? > >Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:50:46 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >Hey tough guy, it was Linda Shields who open the door to this >thread >-- > >not DH. > > > > > > > > > >-----Original >Message----- > >From: Dean >Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >et> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:01:31 > >-0500 > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences-Charles? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Lance Muir > > > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: 11/25/2005 8:31:48 AM > > > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences-Charles? > > > > > > > >Ahhhhhhhhh and, we wonder over violence in society! Thanks for the 
> > > >illustration, Dean. > >cd; There are some things that one is just to > >fight over-My family was > >places under my care and protection-by God. > >It is my duty to do so even > >against those who have no decent icy or > >morals to speak to another man wife > >as a whore. > >----- Original > >Message ----- > >From: Dean Moore > >To: [email protected] > > > >Sent: November 25, 2005 08:21 > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual > >Experiences-Charles? > > > > > >cd: You are speaking to the wife of > >another man-try that with mine and I > >will be on your door step in a > >couple of days-go ahead and ask her 
> > she will > >be reading your next response! > > > > > >----- >Original >Message ----- > >From: Dave > >To: [email protected] > > >Sent: >11/24/2005 11:30:35 PM > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual > >Experiences-Charles? > > > > > >RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual > >Experiences > > > >DAVEH: Do you suppose CPL will know anything about > >them, Dean!?! ?!?! > > ;-) > > > >Dean Moore wrote: > >cd: Where >is our >monitor? Charles? 
> > > > > >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences > > > > > > > >Hardly. J > > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave > >Sent: > >Thursday, November 24, 2005 12:16 PM > >To: [email protected] > > > >Subject: [TruthTalk] Izzy's Sexual Experiences > >You know I'll tell! > > > > > >DAVEH: Wow Izzy......I am rather surprised to hear you say that! > >But it > >is nice to know you are not so hypocritical that you would not > >be willing > >to post on TT such personal things as you expect me to > >share . Now that I > >think about it Izzy, I'm sure it would be much >more >interesting for TTers > >to hear about your sexual experiences than >mine. >Do tell! > >:-[ > > > >ShieldsFamily wrote: > > >You know I'll tell! :-) > > > > > > > > >DAVEH: Do you really think it >is appropriate to discuss such 
> > personal > >things on a public forum that is known for its lack of > >taste at times? If > >you really want to know the answer to personal > >questions such as that, > >contact me off-Forum and I'll answer your > >question. > > > >ShieldsFamily wrote: > >So DO you??? > > > > > > > > > >I?ve read that you?re supposed to leave them on then, too. > > > > > >DAVEH: That is not my understanding, nor would I think anybody else > >(LDS) > >understands it that way. However....it is not a topic I've > >discussed with > >others , nor have I ever heard it discussed in any LDS > >meetings I've > >attended or in other 
> > official discussions. > > > > There are numerous instances where it >is >not appropriate to wear them, > >viz., playing basketball, swimming, >etc. > > > > >ShieldsFamily wrote: > >How about during sex, DaveH? I?ve >read >that you?re supposed to leave them > >on then, too. True or false? >izzy > > > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 
> > 23, 2005 1:31 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: > >[TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! > >The Mormons have to leave them &g t;on >even while taking a bath-They slide them > >to one side and wash one > >half of their bodies at a time. > > > >DAVEH: Hmmmmmmm.........I > >continue to learn by my presence on TT. > >That's one I haven't tried > >yet, Dean! :-D > > > > Note to Perry: Like I said, I'm here >to learn >what Protestants (and > >Dean, if he isn't a P) 
> > believe. If nothing else, learning that you folks > >believe such > >things as this is a constant form of entertainment! :-) > > > > >Dean >Moore wrote: > >Just asking ------- who said anything about >being drunk? I >mean, you > >guys wave men's underwear around , so why >not chew. Whatever. > > >cd: You had mentioned me "sobering up" before- I >don't chew >tobacco-And the > >Mormons claim that their underwear is >Holy-a sign of >their royal > >Melchizedek Priesthood which is worn under >their clothing >as we are not > > ;worthy to view these holy objects-They >are easy to obtain >for the local > >pawn shops as many are getting 
> > rid of them. We hold them up and declare > >that true holiness is to > >live by the gospel of Christ which is an inner > >cleanliness not an > >outer cleanliness. The Mormons have to leave them on > >even while taking > >a bath-They slide them to one side and wash one half of > >their bodies > >at a time. > > > > > > > >-- > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Dave Hansen > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.langlitz.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > If >you wish to receive > > things I find interesting, > > I >maintain six >email lists... > > JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, > > STUFF, >MOTORCYCLE and >CLIPS. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always >w ith grace, seasoned >with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer >every man." >(Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not >want to receive >posts from this list, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you >will be unsubscribed. If you have a >friend who wants to join, tell him to >send an e-mail to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. 
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