Re: [TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship and the Adoption heresey

[Terry Clifton]

I can clear that up in a hot minute.  There is God, the Father, and there is God, the Son, and there is God the Holy Spirit.  Three persons, one mind, one goal. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy  --  my point is this:   if you reject the notion that Jesus Christ and God are the same,   then you believe that Jesus the man saved mankind   -----------------    man saving man.   An impossibility.  Perhaps Bill could make my point clearer  or Lance or Gary.  ....      -----Original Message----- From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:44:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship and the Adoption heresey     On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 10:09:52 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Especially in view of the foregoing.   To argue that at some point in time,  Jesus Christ became the Son of God is to preach the doctrine of Adoption.  You have man saving man instead of God saving man  --  and that bothers me. Jd How can you call it "man saving man" when it is what God ordained from the foundation of the world?  Jesus is called many things in scripture including "the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world"     I don't believe this (man saving man)   .....   you do if you believe that he was not God in the flesh. jd   This man saving man idea is a figment of your own imagination JD.  If God could have redeemed mankind as God then Jesus would never have had to be born of the woman and learn obedience by suffering.  It could have all been done from heaven.