Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of "unregenerate" gentiles

[Judy Taylor]

I wonder if the Bereans had done any reading of primary source material when they examined what Paul preached. Also the apostle John, I wonder if he had read source material when he exhorted 1st Century Christians not to even wish a false teacher "godspeed" for if they did they would be a "partaker of his evil deeds"  If I were prone to worry you would worry me Lance. You are more concerned about these men than you are about Jesus Himself and the ministry of the Spirit of Christ.  IMO you need to do more primary reading from the source of all Truth - then you will more accurately be qualified to discern between good and evil.  Your qualifications are not those of Christ.   On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 08:26:28 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: YOU JUDY are not entitled to call it anything, IMO. You've not done, insofar as I know, any reading of primary source material (2 vol Institutes, Commentaries). It's akin to hearing an atheist condemn the teachings of the Scriptures based upon the same sort of evidentiary inquiry that you've conducted with John Calvin.   From: Judy Taylor   Would Calvinistic heresay be acceptable Lance?  Where did the doctrine called Calvinism come from if not from him?  What should we call doctrine taken from his institutes and taught in our 20th Century Churches?  Can I call it teachings of Calvin that Lance calls hearsay?   On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 07:07:08 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: With apologies (sort of) in advance to David Miller and Linda Shields, I ask you once again, Judy: Do you believe that you are MORE DISCERNING THAN JOHN CALVIN?  IMO, your regard for Scriptures appears to be second to nobody on TT. (regard NOT being the same thing as understanding). However, you do indeed appear to read/study and live it insofar as you are enabled. Scripture is a primary source for you. Amen! for that. Now, other than the blessed internet, how much of John Calvin's own writings, have you actually read. Do you possess anything whatsoever by him? If all that you know of him would be classed as 'hearsay' then do cease and desist from your unfounded allegations hereafter. Stick to that which you claim to understand, please?.  From: Judy Taylor   Sure they do, they camp around John Calvin don't they?  Why do you think there are so many different doctrines all claiming to be the truth?   On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:11:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..do Bible readers 'camp' around theological error in your neck of the woods?   On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:00:30 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CPL, Are [Bible] readers who believe that JC taught that encouraging the baptism of the HS for the already converted 'sums up the Law and Prophets' Christian/s?   On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:01:39 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || Matt 7:11 is a scripture that is used to encourage people to seek the Baptism in the Holy Spirit... jt ||   --   for reference: 7:12So in everything, do [the good] to others [t]hat you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.                                              judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4)                                            judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4)                                            judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4)