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There is some weird charismania out there also that
borders on the occult which is why a
lot of the 'once Spirit led' groups in this area are
not as they once were... So I will neither accept
or reject your claim. I personally believe there
is a real but most of what we have been subject
to is the false.
NOT, I repeat NOT, amongst some of the 'reformed
believers' who regularly shop in this store.
Like I've said concerning you on occasion, y'all
otta get out more.
You keep wanting to card file everyone and
everything Lance. Pat Robertson is charismatic - yes
but that is not to say that everyone at Regent
University believes this way - it is equal opportunity.
His Hotel has been sold
to a secular company. A lot of things happen because of the ebb and
flow
of the almighty dollar. My daughter's
roomate worked at Regent for a while - calling a
list of the big
donors to see if they would give more $$ and she
was shocked that they asked on the form she
filled out if she spoke in tongues which is
anathema in Reformed circles.
Isn't RU a 'charismatic' U? Maybe those who
drive 45 min see what you cannot!
By charismatic I mean charming and he is
"educated". I've not met any Reformed ppl who are into
spiritual giftings but we get a lot of ppl
from Regent University who drive 45 minutes to come out here which tells
me there is a dearth at VA Beach also.
This fellow is OK for historical background and a philosophical overview
and ppl like the "look" of success so they
keep joining the church.
How are you using 'charismatic'? IFF the
Spirit of God is NOT present in this church Judy, flee immediately!
IFF the Spirit of God IS present in this church Judy, then take care
concerning those accusations lest you falsely accuse one of God's
own.
D**n Judy, but you're one c***y
lady!!
No, I figure God is able to keep us and our
son is doing his own homework which is more than many.
The missionary girl (just spent 7yrs in
Ukraine) that just moved into an Apt with our youngest girl
was
raised in what they call the Reformed faith
and has never questioned it. Many pew sitters want to
be
spoon fed by someone who is charismatic,
entertaining, and has a good personality and if God
doesn't
show up - Oh well!! They wouldn't
know the difference.
Are you, Judy, concerned for your
son/yourself in this church, under this pastor?
He does JD and if he left almost the
whole church would go with him. It is definitely "he" who
has it
"going on" rather than the
Lord. You would like him. You could laugh at all his jokes
appreciate all
the books he has read and cites in his
sermons and join his pastorly following especially since you
are pleased to accommodate Calvinism -
you'd probably fit right in.
Your pastors name? Sounds as though he has it going
on !!!!! jd
From:
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Dean:
Thanks for your response and please
pray for me. I am in a Reformed Church right now ONLY
to encourage
our son and DIL who want to raise
our grandson in Church but the more I learn about it the
worse it becomes.
Our Pastor is smart, charismatic,
and has been to three different Bible schools and in four
different denoms.
He has a Phd and THIS is what
he has chosen? It boggles the mind. Last week he
was teaching us that the
sin of "unbelief" had been taken
care of at the cross. So I guess that makes the whole
of Romans 11 null and
void and no branches have to be
concerned about being cut off and burned. The
elect have it made in the shade but noone seems to be able to know for sure
who they are. It's confusion at best and an antiChrist spirit at worst.
Don't know whether or not I can
stay the course.....
cd: Amen Judy for their fruits are
enough-Studying their teaching apart from their works
is the reason those -who support Calvin-on this
site are confused. We see their work so
we have no need for their teachings. We
don't have to study the Satanic Bible to know
our enemy for truth sheds a bright light
on him already. The Bible teaches to look at their
fruits and their works is what God Judges every
man by-so we can also use God tool to
know them.
I have yet to hurl an epithet
anywhere Lance. My objection to Calvinism is for
some very specific reasons with or
without "firsthand knowledge or intricate and
specific detail" about Calvin the man. His
teachings are enough. I will
leave the man to God. I have no desire to be
an expert on John Calvin the man or any other
anti-Christ (meaning in
place of) figure for that
matter and this would include Athanasius, Augustine,
Aquinas, et al. along to the present
Papacy both rc and protestant. I am happy to leave you
to tend to them while I press on to know the Lord and
the
power of His resurrection in my daily
life.
Were I prone to worry
Judy, YOU would not be among those about whom I would.
Why? I perceive you to be a completely and utterly
genuine believer, who esteems the Scriptures highly
and who lives what she believes. Now, when it comes to
the hurling of epithets at those servants of God about
whom you possess no firsthand knowledge, I'd put you
alongside DaveH and Blainer and their knowledge of the
TRUE GOSPEL. (Believe it or not, this is a sort of
compliment, Judy)
I wonder if the Bereans had
done any reading of primary source material when
they examined what Paul preached.
Also the apostle John, I
wonder if he had read source material when he
exhorted 1st Century Christians not to even
wish a false teacher "godspeed" for if they
did they would be a "partaker of his evil
deeds" If I were prone to worry
you would worry me Lance. You are more
concerned about these men than you are about Jesus
Himself and the
ministry of the Spirit of
Christ. IMO you need to do more primary
reading from the source of all Truth - then
you
will more accurately be
qualified to discern between good and evil.
Your qualifications are not those of
Christ.
YOU JUDY are not
entitled to call it anything, IMO. You've not
done, insofar as I know, any reading of primary
source material (2 vol Institutes, Commentaries).
It's akin to hearing an atheist condemn the
teachings of the Scriptures based upon the same
sort of evidentiary inquiry that you've conducted
with John Calvin.
Would Calvinistic
heresay be acceptable Lance? Where did the
doctrine called Calvinism come from if not
from
him? What should
we call doctrine taken from his institutes and
taught in our 20th Century Churches? Can I
call
it teachings of Calvin
that Lance calls hearsay?
With apologies
(sort of) in advance to David Miller and Linda
Shields, I ask you once again, Judy: Do you
believe that you are MORE DISCERNING THAN JOHN
CALVIN? IMO, your regard for Scriptures
appears to be second to nobody on TT. (regard
NOT being the same thing as understanding).
However, you do indeed appear to read/study and
live it insofar as you are enabled. Scripture is
a primary source for you. Amen! for that. Now, other than the blessed
internet, how much of John Calvin's own
writings, have you actually read. Do you
possess anything whatsoever by him? If all that
you know of him would be classed as 'hearsay'
then do cease and desist from your unfounded
allegations hereafter. Stick to that
which you claim to understand,
please?.
Sure they do, they camp
around John Calvin don't they? Why do you
think there are so many
different doctrines all
claiming to be the truth?
..do Bible readers 'camp' around
theological error in your neck of the
woods?
CPL, Are [Bible] readers
who believe that JC taught that encouraging
the baptism of the HS for the already
converted 'sums up the Law and Prophets'
Christian/s?
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Matt 7:11 is a
scripture that is used to encourage people to
seek the Baptism in
the Holy
Spirit... jt
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for reference:
7:12So in everything, do
[the good] to others [t]hat you would have
them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the
Prophets.
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep
His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep
His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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