You have equated the nature of God with your own personal 
beliefs.   I have the Sprit and since the Spirit gives us nothing
but absolute truth,  I MUST be right.   You need to bring your 
faith in line with the truth of the biblical message.   

I await your admission of falsehood., 

jd





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From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: [email protected];[email protected]
> Sent: 12/20/2005 10:13:30 PM 
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
> 
> 
> My Jesus, Dean, IS NOT DEFINED by the traditons of men.   Was Jesus born of a 
> virgin.  Was He , at the same time, the Son of God?  Is He the Creator of the 
> worlds.   Was he reased from the dead ?   Is it His sacrifice that presents 
> us 
> with the forgiveness of sins?  Yes to all this  --  and the RCC is fully 
> agreed 
> on these ppoints.  The RCC differs from my theology on two general levels  -  
> the importances of works and the place in worship for the traditions of the 
> Church.  A third  consideration is the role of the Church as the revelator of 
> God in Christ. But our God is the same.   
> 
> jd
> cd: No sir they are not the same-My God forbids Idol worship and Catholics 
> claim 
> there is no wrong in doing this act. Big difference. My God requires 
> repentence 
> for this aqct their God allows this act-not the same God.
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: [email protected];[email protected]
> Sent: 12/20/2005 7:49:31 AM 
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
> 
> 
> The Christ of the RCC is no different from the Christ I serve.   That RCC 
> theology is too full of tradition and works, we would probably agree.  but if 
> we 
> roll all of RCC doctrine into the concept of "Christ,"  we comdemn ourselves 
> by 
> that action and for much of the same reasons.
> 
> jd
> cd: Really John? So you Jesus allows you to pray to Idols (ie Mary and many 
> Saints). Does you Jesus say the Pope is infallible? Does you Jesus allow you 
> to 
> remove one of his commandments (ie. the second commandment of no Idol 
> worship)and divide the tenth in two commandments to hid their actions? Does 
> you 
> Jesus allow you to beat your self for a lesser hell-by punishing yourself or 
> does he say repent? Does you Jesus teach of purgatory?...etc? My Jesus 
> doesn't 
> allow such things.
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: 12/17/2005 5:18:02 PM 
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/16/2005 8:59:42 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> discerning the difference . . . 
> 
> cd: And the sad part is you actually believe a man who said there were 6 ft 
> quaker like people living on the moon-as a prophet of God-very sad indeed.
> 
> He may have said that, but he also testified of the reality of Jesus Christ.  
> Would you count that as being uninspired?
> Blainerb
> cd: You and DaveH both mention Jesus Christ but it is not the Christ on the 
> Bible-as was Smiths Christ not of God.If he was inspired then Smiths word 
> would 
> reflect Christ words they do not do so. Therefore the only conclusion I can 
> draw 
> from that is Smith is speaking of another Christ.Simular to the Jesus that 
> RCC 
> teachs-They made unto themselves a Christ that allows for Idol worship and 
> sell 
> him to people for attendance to their Church.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: 12/16/2005 4:08:55 PM 
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/14/2005 5:00:06 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> cd:  The why don't  Mormons live by Jesus's words instead of Smith's words.
> 
> Blainerb:  .  Smith lived and died for his testimony of Jesus Christ, whom he 
> saw and spoke with on several occasions.  Smith was His prophet, just as 
> Moses 
> was his prophet. There are exciting parallels between the two, in fact.   If 
> JS 
> ever spoke anything contrary to the mind and will of the Lord, he spoke of 
> himself. Being a man, having the weaknesses of a man, he may have done that 
> on 
> occasion.  But that did not mean he was not a prophet who revealed the mind 
> and 
> will of Jesus Christ to man in these last days.  Use the Holy Spirit, and the 
> spirit of charity to be your guide in discerning the difference . . . 
> 
> cd: And the sad part is you actually believe a man who said there were 6 ft 
quaker like people living on the moon-as a prophet of God-very sad indeed.


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----- Original Message -----
From:
Sent: 12/20/2005 10:13:30 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

My Jesus, Dean, IS NOT DEFINED by the traditons of men.   Was Jesus born of a virgin.  Was He , at the same time, the Son of God?  Is He the Creator of the worlds.   Was he reased from the dead ?   Is it His sacrifice that presents us with the forgiveness of sins?  Yes to all this  --  and the RCC is fully agreed on these ppoints.  The RCC differs from my theology on two general levels  -  the importances of works and the place in worship for the traditions of the Church.  A third  consideration is the role of the Church as the revelator of God in Christ. But our God is the same.  
 
jd
cd: No sir they are not the same-My God forbids Idol worship and Catholics claim there is no wrong in doing this act. Big difference. My God requires repentence for this aqct their God allows this act-not the same God.
 
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From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:
Sent: 12/20/2005 7:49:31 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

The Christ of the RCC is no different from the Christ I serve.   That RCC theology is too full of tradition and works, we would probably agree.  but if we roll all of RCC doctrine into the concept of "Christ,"  we comdemn ourselves by that action and for much of the same reasons.
 
jd
cd: Really John? So you Jesus allows you to pray to Idols (ie Mary and many Saints). Does you Jesus say the Pope is infallible? Does you Jesus allow you to remove one of his commandments (ie. the second commandment of no Idol worship)and divide the tenth in two commandments to hid their actions? Does you Jesus allow you to beat your self for a lesser hell-by punishing yourself or does he say repent? Does you Jesus teach of purgatory?...etc? My Jesus doesn't allow such things.
 
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From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:
Sent: 12/17/2005 5:18:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

In a message dated 12/16/2005 8:59:42 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
discerning the difference . . . 
 
cd: And the sad part is you actually believe a man who said there were 6 ft quaker like people living on the moon-as a prophet of God-very sad indeed.
 
He may have said that, but he also testified of the reality of Jesus Christ.  Would you count that as being uninspired?
Blainerb
cd: You and DaveH both mention Jesus Christ but it is not the Christ on the Bible-as was Smiths Christ not of God.If he was inspired then Smiths word would reflect Christ words they do not do so. Therefore the only conclusion I can draw from that is Smith is speaking of another Christ.Simular to the Jesus that RCC teachs-They made unto themselves a Christ that allows for Idol worship and sell him to people for attendance to their Church.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:
Sent: 12/16/2005 4:08:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

In a message dated 12/14/2005 5:00:06 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cd:  The why don't  Mormons live by Jesus's words instead of Smith's words.
 
Blainerb:  .  Smith lived and died for his testimony of Jesus Christ, whom he saw and spoke with on several occasions.  Smith was His prophet, just as Moses was his prophet. There are exciting parallels between the two, in fact.   If JS ever spoke anything contrary to the mind and will of the Lord, he spoke of himself. Being a man, having the weaknesses of a man, he may have done that on occasion.  But that did not mean he was not a prophet who revealed the mind and will of Jesus Christ to man in these last days.  Use the Holy Spirit, and the spirit of charity to be your guide in discerning the difference . . . 
 
cd: And the sad part is you actually believe a man who said there were 6 ft quaker like people living on the moon-as a prophet of God-very sad indeed.
 
 

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