Re: [TruthTalk] Real men kill people

[Judy Taylor]

I take care not to add words or meaning to the words of scripture, however your words are not in the same category JD.  I just can't figure why you would send such a comment as this.  jt     On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:24:48 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Back to your old tactics of adding words and meaning to my post. > If you cannot accept my explanation of what I wrote AND, at the > same time, feel the need to add wording to the post, I see no > point in continuing the discussion.    jd > From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Well JD the tone of your email was negative so I read it as > something > > other than a compliment along with the fact > > that most of the time cute little rich girls are spoiled pagans.  > Do you > > know of one cute little rich girl celebrity who > > is a "steadfast" believer in the Lord Jesus Christ?  If not then > this is > > not a description of Linda.  jt. > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:06:40 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Nothing wrong with being a cute little rich girl, Judy.   You have > > fashioned an argument for no good reason.   I do not need lessons > on > > wealth and happiness.   The contrast between her young life in > Oregon and > > the life she now has as a successful doctor's wife has to be > remarkable. > > And it my understanding that she rather enjoys her present > circumstance. > >  You made too much of my second paragraph below.  > > > > jd > > > > From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > JD, what's this "cute little rich girl" stuff?  Haven't you read > what > > Linda has been writing all these years. > > She has hardly had a "cute little rich girl" life.  Anyway money > does not > > make anyone happy. Our daughter is > > married to someone who makes big bucks but is proving to be > spiritually, > > emotionally, and morally desolate. > > Ask her if "rich is where it is at?"  She is cute and so are our > three > > grandaughters but it is not enough. Hurting > > ppl hurt other people and seldom hold themselves responsible.  > judyt > > > > On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:47:25 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I don't consider you as one who is qualified to discuss anything > > concerning the condition of the heart.   You will disagree, of > course, > > but you have shown a distinct harshness towards those who disagree > with > > you, who are not of the same poltitical party,  who do not share > the same > > social standing (i.e. the poor blacks in N.O.) .  Still, at other > times, > > you almost seem human.   > > > > Your   account of the home in Oregon perhaps explains why you > enjoy, so > > much, being a cute little rich girl.   > > > > jd > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > You and your ilk can’t tell the difference between war heroes and > > murderers.  Your loss.  What a pitiful state of mind.  What an > empty > > heart.  iz > >  > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 12:03 PM > > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Real men kill people > >  > > real women marry murderers?? > >  > > On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:51:41 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Has he ever killed anyone from a mile and half away? > >  > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It’s great to know there are some real men in Canada, in spite of > the > > wimps that run the P.C. government.  (In fact, my husband was born > on a > > US AF base in Newfoundland. J )  iz > >  > > > > > > > > Sniping with the .50 BMG in Afghanistan > > New long-distance record set! > > > > (The following is from the Canadian newspaper National Post. The > shooters > > were using .50 BMG rifles that had Lilja barrels on them outfitted > with > > Nightforce 5.5-22x NXS scopes.) > > OTTAWA BLOCKS U.S. EFFORT TO HONOUR OUR SNIPERS: Canadian snipers > pose > > with their 50-calibre rifle at base camp in Kandahar. Five of the > men, > > whose names the military withheld for security reasons, were > nominated > > for Bronze Stars by the U.S. for their prowess in fighting near > Gardez. > > The sixth joined the unit later in the war. > > Wait due to 'Canadian protocol' > > A kill from 2,430 metres > > By Michael Smith and Chris Wattie > > National Post > > > > The United States wants to give two teams of Canadian snipers the > Bronze > > Star, a decoration for bravery, for their work in rooting out > Taliban and > > al-Qaeda holdouts in eastern Afghanistan, but Canadian defence > officials > > put the medals on hold, the National Post has learned. > > The five snipers spent 19 days fighting alongside the scout > platoon of > > the United States Army's 187th "Rakkasan" brigade last month, > clearing > > out diehard fighters from the mountains near Gardez in eastern > > Afghanistan. > > The Americans were so impressed by the Canadian snipers that they > > recommended them for medals after the battle. > > Sources told the Post that U.S. General Warren Edwards had already > signed > > the recommendation for five Bronze Stars for the sniper teams, > drawn from > > 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, last > month. > > Gen. Edwards, deputy commanding general of coalition land forces > in > > Afghanistan, had recommended three Canadians for a Bronze Star and > two > > for a Bronze Star with distinction. > > The night before the troops were to be awarded the medals, about > three > > weeks ago, Canadian military officials in Ottawa put the > decorations on > > hold, according to a U.S. Army source in Afghanistan. > > The Canadian military told their U.S. counterparts to wait before > > awarding the medals for reasons of "Canadian protocol." > > Spokesmen for the Department of National Defence would not comment > on the > > award last night, but a source within the department said the > medals are > > on hold while the military decides whether or not to award the men > a > > similar Canadian decoration. > > However, Dr. David Bercuson, director of the Centre of Military > and > > Strategic Studies at the University of Calgary, said the real > reason for > > the delay was likely official squeamishness. > > "Canadians don't kill -- they don't even use the word kill; that's > the > > problem," he said. "I think the military is not sure that the > government > > is prepared to accept the fact, let alone celebrate the fact ... > that > > Canadian soldiers do sometimes end up killing people." > > Many of the U.S. scouts who worked directly with the Canadian > snipers > > were incensed that the Canadians did not get the Bronze Star, the > medal > > for bravery the U.S. military usually gives foreign soldiers > serving > > alongside its troops. > > The snipers themselves, all of whom spoke on condition their names > not be > > printed, have said they would prefer to receive a medal from their > peers > > in the field rather than from National Defence Headquarters in > Ottawa. > > Dr. Bercuson said there should be no objection to Canadians > receiving a > > U.S. decoration: As recently as the Gulf War, two Canadian CF-18 > pilots > > were given the Bronze Star. > > He said the medals would be a badly needed boost to the morale of > the > > almost 900 Canadian soldiers on the ground in Afghanistan, > especially > > after four of their comrades were killed and eight others wounded > in last > > week's friendly fire incident. > > "Absolutely they should get it," Dr. Bercuson said. "It would be > good for > > the morale of the guys and good for the morale of the whole unit, > and > > they need a morale boost right now." > > Canadian snipers were reportedly outstanding in the fighting > around the > > mountainous al-Qaeda bastion east of Gardez, code-named Operation > > Anaconda. > > The battle pitted the two Canadian sniper teams against an enemy > that > > showered the assaulting coalition troops with mortars and > machine-gun > > fire as soon as they jumped from their helicopters. > > One member of the team, a corporal from Newfoundland, said on his > first > > night in combat he and his partner got an al-Qaeda machine gun in > their > > sights as it was hailing bullets down on U.S. troops below. > Crawling up > > into a good position, they set up their .50-calibre rifle -- the > McMillan > > Tac-50, a weapon the corporal compares to having superhuman power > in your > > hands. "Firing it feels like someone slashing you on the back of > your > > hockey helmet with a hockey stick." (These are the rifles fitted > with > > Lilja .50 caliber barrels and Nightforce NXS scopes.) > > When he hit his first target, an enemy gunman at a distance of > 1,700 > > metres, he said all that ran through his mind was locating his > next > > target. > > "All I thought of was Sept. 11th and all those people who didn't > have a > > chance and the American reporter who was taken hostage, murdered > and his > > wife getting the videotape of the execution; that is my > justification." > > A master corporal from Ontario, the lead sniper of his three-man > team, > > said when they first landed in the combat zone "our spider senses > were > > tingling.... It was night and we didn't know what to expect." > > By daylight, after coming under enemy machine-gun fire, he managed > to > > ease his rifle barrel between two rocks and quickly located an > enemy > > sniper hiding behind a small piece of corrugated steel between two > trees. > > He guessed the distance at 1,700 metres and fired one shot through > the > > metal, killing the man instantly. > > He said afterward he remembered thinking: "That's one less bullet > that's > > gonna be coming at us, one less person we have to think about." > > During the next four days of fighting, the Newfoundland corporal > set what > > is believed to be a record for a long-distance shot under combat > > conditions, hitting an enemy gunman at a distance of 2,430 metres. > > The days of crawling, shooting and long hours waiting in cover > left the > > Canadian snipers exhausted. "You don't realize what you've done to > your > > body and how tired you are till it's all done. I think we slept 14 > or 15 > > hours when we got back," the master corporal said. > > Three of them, along with U.S. special forces soldiers, also > rescued a > > company of the U.S. 101st Airborne Division that was pinned down > by enemy > > fire on the first day of Operation Anaconda. > > They also participated in Operation Harpoon, with Canadian troops > on "the > > whale," a mountain overlooking the Shah-e-Kot valley where > al-Qaeda > > fighters were putting up stiff resistance. > > Operation Harpoon, carried out in conjunction with Operation > Anaconda, > > consisted of 500 Canadian and 100 U.S. troops under the command of > > Lieutenant-Colonel Pat Stogran, who leads Canadian Forces in > Afghanistan > > in the biggest ground offensive since the Korean War. > > Lieutenant Justin Overbaugh, of the American scout platoon to > which the > > Canadian snipers were attached, said it was a pleasure to work > with the > > Canadian troops. "Their professionalism was amazing," Lieut. > Overbaugh > > said. "The Canadians were a very large asset to the mission. I > would have > > loved to have 12 Canadian sniper teams out there. I'd have no > problems > > fighting alongside of them again." > > He said the Canadian snipers had equipment far superior to theirs. > Their > > rifles had longer range than the U.S. weapons and better high-tech > > sights. Lieut. Overbaugh said if another mission comes up, he will > > request the Canadian sniper teams be sent with his unit. > > Senior military officials in Ottawa made a point of praising their > work > > at the time. "The sniper teams suppressed enemy mortars and heavy > > machine-gun positions with deadly accuracy," Vice-Admiral Greg > Maddison > > said after Operation Harpoon ended. "Their skills are credited > with > > likely having saved many allied lives." > >  > > > > > > > >  > > > > > >                                          judyt                     >       > >             > > He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments > >                               is a liar (1 John 2:4) > > > > > > > >                                          judyt                     >       > >             > > He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments >                               is a liar (1 John 2:4) > > >                                              judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4)