Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets

[Judy Taylor]

To do so would necessitate moving out of this world system Lance because Freemasonry has roots everywhere.  You can't go into a small town in the South without seeing a DAR obelisk and Civil War monuments embellished with Masonic symbols and the Lodge building is usually central also.  A pastor told me once that this is because the Lodge helped rebuild the South when it was so devastated and held everything together - kind of.  It also permeates my husband's family though I doubt that any of them know what it is really all about - most of them think it is good because they claim to be able to make good men even better.  Our government is full of it and I'm sure yours is also.     On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:22:38 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We 'fill out' words, ceremonies, symbols and, traditions with > MEANING. In > one sense only those who live/experience that reality fully > understand that > particular MEANING. In quite another sense, as I discovered 25 years > ago, > one can understand the MEANING invested in words, ceremonies, > symbols and > traditions that are not one's own. (i.e. Mormonism) In yet another, > and > quite important sense, one dare not understand some of these. > Example:IFF > the spirit of freemasonry is also the spirit of mormonism then, one > would > wish to maintain 'arm's length' distance from that which is > intrinsically > 'occupied' by such 'spirits'. > >   ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> > Sent: January 03, 2006 09:03 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > > > Dave, in your temple ceremony, who does it depict Satan paying to > preach > > his message? > > > > > >>From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >>Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 01:21:18 -0800 > >> > >>* "Protestants" are just one detestable group of pagans in the > group of > >>"gentiles". * > >>* > >>  Doesn't it seem interesting that DaveH finds such intrique with > a pagan > >> group like the "protestants".* > >> > >>DAVEH:   What's with the pagan stuff, Perry.  That sounds like > something > >>you guys have called me, but FTR......I do not want any TTers to > think for > >>one second that I consider any of you folks to be pagans. > >> > >>    As for your mention of......... > >> > >>/*they call everyone who is not a mormon a "gentile"*/ > >> > >>..........You really do not understand the nature of what that > means, so > >>you might want to be careful about pretending to know something > you don't. > >>It reflects poorly on your image, Perry. > >> > >>*he insists on calling us "protestants" as a disrespect.* > >> > >>DAVEH:  Nonsense.  I will give you the same advice I gave > John.....If you > >>can't quote me exactly, then don't pretend to quote me at all by > putting > >>words in my mouth.  FTR........I have much more respect for > Protestants > >>than you will ever imagine, and as such I certainly have more > respect for > >>Protestants than I do for those who misquote me. > >> > >>Charles Perry Locke wrote: > >> > >>>   John, there is a higher level division amongst the > mormons.../*they > >>> call everyone who is not a mormon a "gentile"*/.* "Protestants" > are just > >>> one detestable group of pagans in the group of "gentiles". * > >>>* > >>>   Doesn't it seem interesting that DaveH finds such intrique > with a > >>> pagan group like the "protestants".* Their own founder claimed > the > >>> mormon god told him that he should join NO denomination, and > that ALL > >>> denominations were an abomination. As you have stated, even > though most > >>> on this group do not consider themselves "protestants" per se > and have > >>> identified themselves as being members of the church Jesus > started, > >>> being members of the body of Christ, *he insists on calling us > >>> "protestants" as a disrespect.* If he respected us he would call > us what > >>> we are...members of the body of Christ. Christians. > >>> > >>>Perry > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>David, do you understand how the Mormons use this word > "protestant?"  Do > >>>>you understand that I do not like that characterization?   Do > you > >>>>understand that  it is gross sectarianism that insists on the > separation > >>>>between RCC and those who reject papel authority?  Do you know > that > >>>>there are millions of Catholics who do not accept Papel > authority?   Do > >>>>you understand that I have a right to expect not to be branded > with a > >>>>Mormon slang word used by them to describe all who are not of > "the > >>>>[Mormon] truth?" "protestant" is another way of saying > "unbeleiver" or > >>>>"pagan."  We are not fooling anyone, here.  I have seen their > chat rooms > >>>>!!         Do you understand that when DH uses this word,  he > >>>>necessarily attaches to it  ideas that are definitely not of my > >>>>approveal? > >>>> > >>>>This should be an easily resolved issue.   But it is not.   The > Mormons > >>>>insist on using this word because that is what their buds do, in > > >>>>private. All Mormons I know use this word and in the same manner > as > >>>>Blaine and DH.   Get off the pot and smell the roses.   You are > not > >>>>scoring any points with the Mormons in this. > >>>> > >>>>jd > >>>> > >>>>-------------- Original message -------------- > >>>>From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> > >>>>John, do you understand the difference between a historical > perspective > >>>>and a philosophical one? > >>>> > >>>>Let's consider the philosophical concern a little more closely.  > A > >>>>Protestant is defined broadly as a member of a church that > rejects papal > >>>>authority. > >>>> > >>>>------------- > >>>>Prot·es·tant > >>>>[noun] > >>>>member of church rejecting papal authority: a member or adherent > of any > >>>>denomination of the Western Christian church that rejects papal > >>>>authority and some fundamental Roman Catholic doctrines, and > believes in > >>>>justification by faith. > >>>> > >>>>Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2005. © 1993-2004 > Microsoft > >>>>Corporation. All rights reserved. > >>>>------------- > >>>> > >>>>Aimee rejected papal authority.  Do you, John, accept or reject > the > >>>>authority of the pope as being the vicar of Christ? > >>>> > >>>>Peace be with you. > >>>>David Miller. > >>> > >> > > > > > > ---------- > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that > you may > > know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) > > http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email > to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you > have a > > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you > may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you > have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > >