jd
cd: John this message was in my drafts folder-so I sent it
today not intending to rehash old augments by preaching the old gospel
in modern times but to enlighten as the old gospel has never changed.
I disagree as if is very biblical. It doesn't matter what the
catholics"think of these statues"
Not true. I have a picture of
"Jesus " in our family Bible. Is that an "idol?" Of
course not. And why -- because I say so !!! I
decide if an idol is a god or not. That is precisely
what is wrong with an idal. I am the one who decides it to
be "a god." Catholics use statues as "objects
lessons" as they function and communicate with God. The RCC is a
Christian Church -- with a lot of problems,
admittedly. They are wonderfull people and full of
faith.
cd: John an Idol is something one prays to
or worships that is forbidden. To pray to the Jesus in your
family bible is not forbidden. Paul,in Romans 1:18-25,
teaches that idolatry is not the first stage of religion,from which
man by an evolutionary process emerges to monotheism, but is the
result of deliberate religious apostasy (ie. The Compact Bible
Dictionary). I do realize that there are Christian with much faith
within the RCC but these people will be known by their resistance to
sin that is taught in the RCC such as Idolatry. How do you define
Idolatry John? If you are the one whom decides
what Idol is or is not-what
do you do with God's definition of what an idol
is?
what matters is what God said.- the act of bowing
down and praying to someone other that God/ Christ- is idolatry.
Exod.20: 4
Good quote. When was the last time you
saw a Catholic bow down to a false God? You really do not
know what you are talking about, here.
cd: John I do know of which I am speaking-I
have heard CC members pray to Mary-and have spoken to students on
College campus who "pray to the saints". My response to them is how do
you know that these saints even went to heaven? Could you be praying
to someone who dwells in Hell? I then show those
students the 2nd commandment with the instruction to worship God
only-thru Christ. I then compare Mary to John the Baptist-whom was
greatest among men and nowhere in the Bible are we told to pray to
John the Baptist. Respectfully, you have much to learn of the RCC and
the Bible.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness
of any thing in heaven or that is in the earth beneath,... thou shall
not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them; for I the Lord am a
jealous God. St John didn't know he was doing wrong by bowing to
a angel but was also corrected- Rev 19:10
1 Cor 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not
inherit the kingdom of god? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
Idolaters....shall inherit the kingdom of God.
As concerning the faith of the catholics-Arn't we told to test
faith by works
There are few on this
site who believes in testing the sprits.
Everythime I ask DM for some kind of evidence, some kind of
verification for his claim to be an apostle and a prophet
- I get silence.
cd: I perceive that your request to
D.Millers is viewed as wanting a "sign" from David-The Jews also
wanted a "sign" from Christ to support His Claims-they were
given none as we do not walk by signs but by faith. He did mention to
some that the only sign given would be the sign of Jonah who died for
three day and came to life. If these Jews failed to see the miracles
Christ performed what other proof could Jesus give them? Try asking
David to tell of his prophecies so that his light will shine and God
can be given glory. I too would like to hear them to give God
glory-What do you say David? Satan also asked Jesus For a sign to
prove he was the son of God and he also was not given that
sign.
-and every man was judged by their works Rev:20;13? Or a tree by
it's fruit?Therefore I will use God measuring rod to decide truth.Thes
Catholics also removed the 2nd commandment of Idolatry and divided
the 10th commandment (coveting)into two commandments-making ten
commandments-back to our same old question of why would they
remove they words in the first place?
I don't believe there is idolatry in the
Catholic church -- certainly not of the kind God in
scripture references.
jd
cd: Try telling that to the next Jew you
meet and see what answer he gives you?
