DAVEH: Most of my interactions with him have been via TT since it's
birth, though I've recently had the opportunity to chat with DavidM on
the phone for about an hour recently, which certainly has added
immeasurably to my understanding of him, in a personal sense. I
don't see him in the same amorphous light you do though, Lance. If
anything, I have the opposite view. Perhaps you are thinking that
because he is so tolerant of others' views, that it appears he changes
his beliefs when he doesn't respond vehemently against those things
that he does not accept. Or....maybe when he rarely does respond
harsher (or, in a different way) to some, than to others....it gives
you the impression that he is two-faced. I guess I'm not quite sure
what you find to not like about DM....sometimes I'm rather naive and
prefer to think the best of people. That isn't to say I'm perfect in
that respect.....I've got my foibles, and am trying to climb above
them. Care to walk that path with me, Lance?
Lance Muir wrote:
DH:I'm assuming that you, like
myself, have never gotten to know DM personally. Therefore, we've only
got TT when it comes to 'reading' him(pun intended) I've found him
amorphous in nature, even chameleon like.I tend to respond to 'the DM'
I read during his infrequent visits to TT.
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People, understandably, intervene on
behalf of those for whom they care.
DAVEH: Which is why I'm chatting with you about this, Lance.
Family members may speak harshly,
on occasion, to one another
DAVEH: I would like to think that fact does not justify its
continuation.
These same family members may not
permit the same liberty to non-family members
DAVEH: I've certainly mentioned my observation of a double standard
in TT before. Though I let it justify my subsequent posts, in
retrospect I regret having made that justification, as it lowered
myself, rather than lifted another....as I think the Lord would
preferred.
DM should appreciate you, one
whome he apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf.
DAVEH: I suspect DM appreciates and loves each and every TTer for a
variety of reasons, each for perhaps a different reason. Being the
black sheep of TT, I doubt that I really fit into anybody's family
here......but I don't think DM would want to exclude me for being
different, so to speak. Though one does not necessarily have to appreciate another,
IMHO.....one should respect another. As you know, that is one of my
weaknesses, which I intend to work on during my tenure in TT. Perhaps
we can travel that journey together, Lance.
Lance Muir wrote:
Conclusion...eh? People,
understandably, intervene on behalf of those for whom they care. Family
members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one another. These
same family members may not permit the same liberty to non-family
members. Therefore, DM should appreciate you, one whome he
apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf.
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DAVEH: FWIW.......While it may be mild, it strikes me as being in the
realm of an ad-hom. And, whether or not it is true......I do no see it
as pertinent to whether or not it is an ad-hom. However
Lance......I've made similar errors of judgment in the past, so I
probably should not be the one to point out yours.
Lance Muir wrote:
I draw the line, Dave, where
that which is said does not describe the one being spoken to. 'Pompous
ass' is pretty mild stuff.
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You were simply described.
DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is
it possible describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an
ad-hom in your opinion?
Lance Muir wrote:
YOU WERE NOT INSULTED,
DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was employed
that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one!
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