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I recommend idealism from ages 13-25. Thereafter,
should the idealism remain, you're out of touch with reality, DH, so NO I do not
care to walk that path with you.
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DAVEH: Most of my interactions with him have been via TT
since it's birth, though I've recently had the opportunity to chat with DavidM
on the phone for about an hour recently, which certainly has added
immeasurably to my understanding of him, in a personal sense.
I don't see him in the same amorphous light you do though, Lance.
If anything, I have the opposite view. Perhaps you are thinking that
because he is so tolerant of others' views, that it appears he changes his
beliefs when he doesn't respond vehemently against those things that he does
not accept. Or....maybe when he rarely does respond harsher (or,
in a different way) to some, than to others....it gives you the impression
that he is two-faced. I guess I'm not quite sure what you find to
not like about DM....sometimes I'm rather naive and prefer to think the best
of people. That isn't to say I'm perfect in that respect.....I've got my
foibles, and am trying to climb above them. Care to walk that path with
me, Lance?
Lance Muir wrote:
DH:I'm assuming that you, like myself, have
never gotten to know DM personally. Therefore, we've only got TT when it
comes to 'reading' him(pun intended) I've found him amorphous in
nature, even chameleon like.I tend to respond to 'the DM' I read during his
infrequent visits to TT.
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Sent:
January 05, 2006 23:59
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People, understandably,
intervene on behalf of those for whom they
care.
DAVEH: Which is why I'm chatting with
you about this, Lance.
Family members
may speak harshly, on occasion, to one
another
DAVEH: I would like to think
that fact does not justify its continuation.
These same family members may not permit the same liberty to
non-family members
DAVEH: I've certainly
mentioned my observation of a double standard in TT before.
Though I let it justify my subsequent posts, in retrospect I regret having
made that justification, as it lowered myself, rather than lifted
another....as I think the Lord would preferred.
DM should appreciate you, one whome he apparently sees as a
family member, speaking on his
behalf.
DAVEH: I suspect DM appreciates
and loves each and every TTer for a variety of reasons, each for perhaps a
different reason. Being the black sheep of TT, I doubt that I really
fit into anybody's family here......but I don't think DM would want to
exclude me for being different, so to speak. Though one does not
necessarily have to appreciate
another, IMHO.....one should respect another. As you
know, that is one of my weaknesses, which I intend to work on during my
tenure in TT. Perhaps we can travel that journey together,
Lance.
Lance Muir wrote:
Conclusion...eh? People, understandably,
intervene on behalf of those for whom they care. Family
members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one another. These
same family members may not permit the same liberty to non-family
members. Therefore, DM should appreciate you, one whome he
apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his
behalf.
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January 05, 2006 01:51
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DAVEH: FWIW.......While it may be mild, it
strikes me as being in the realm of an ad-hom. And, whether or
not it is true......I do no see it as pertinent to whether or not it
is an ad-hom. However Lance......I've made similar errors of
judgment in the past, so I probably should not be the one to point out
yours.
Lance Muir wrote:
I draw the line, Dave, where that which
is said does not describe the one being spoken to. 'Pompous ass' is
pretty mild stuff.
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January 02, 2006 17:52
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You were simply
described.
DAVEH: Lance, may I ask
you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it possible
describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom
in your opinion?
Lance Muir wrote:
YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM!
You were simply described. An _expression_ was employed
that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive
one!
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