Re: [TruthTalk] Reconciliation to the Father through Christ (JD)

[Judy Taylor]

 

 

On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:39:57 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Beans.  I wasn't finished with that last post.  

I worship Him because of who He is in this world. 

 

Well then, what's the problem?  He is presently in this world by His Spirit

 

Jesus tells us that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him  -- in this world curing His incarnation.  Take a glass of orange juice and mix in a glass of water.  In time, the two ellements will become indistinguishable.  Christ says "if you hve seen me , you have seen the Father."  He says "I am the first and the last." 

 

He also tells us those who believe on Him that He is in them and they are in Him and that IF they abide in Him

that He and the Father will make their abode with them. 

 

You think I am concerned about reconciling Eusebius or Polycarp or Alexander's thoughts to the scriptures?   You actually think I that???? 

 

No, it's more like Athanasius, Augustine, Aquinas ....

 

I care about learning from whoever writes the word  (including you) but my authority on matters of didache is the written Word. 

 

Good, then at least we can agree on this one point.....

 

jd

 

 

 

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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 

JD,

I may be mistaken but I get the idea you are constantly striving over these "Jesus is God" and

"Eternal Son" issues to try to conform scripture to the teachings of the Church Fathers or what

is known as "Orthodoxy" extra Biblical teachings that have been handed down generationally.

 

Why not submit oneself to God's Word and allow Him to give you understanding.  You know how

every word is established by two or more scriptural witnesses? Well here is another witness to

the truth of Col 1:19.

 

"It was God (personally present in Christ), reconciling and restoring the world to favor with Himself, not

counting up and holding against (men) their trespasses (but cancelling them) and committing to us

the message of reconciliation (of the restoration to favor)." (2 Cor 5:19) Amp

 

Notice it does not say it was Christ as God who reconciled the world to himself?

 

The Holy Spirit is part of the Godhead - He is equal to both Father and Son; Jesus as son of man

walked in His fullness.  So tell me, what is wrong with just allowing God to be God and allowing His

Word to reveal His intent to this generation?  We don't want to repeat Israel's error ... you know the

stiff neck syndrome...