Oophs!! I shouldn't have said "none" because there is the Isaiah passage
(Isaiah 7:14); but where are all the others you speak of.
 
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:02:00 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lance writes: The INCARNATION is everywhere present throughout the entirety of Scripture, Judy.
 
Where?  Jesus told His disciples at the end that "All things must be fulfilled, which were written in
the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms concerning me" (Luke 24:44).  I know
some of those things and none of them concern the "incarnation"
 
IFF Israel is the preparatory womb for Immanuel, the Incarnate Isralelite, who then completes the
'double move of God in Himself, (God to man in Christ/Man to God in Christ) then your query is
more than adequately addressed IN HIM...THE INCARNATE GOD.
 
Where does this "Israel as preparatory womb" idea come from - is it scriptural or doctrinal?
He was leading them through the wilderness as the rock and the fire; I'd say He was more a
womb for them than vise versa.
 
Well then Lance why don't you add what is missing in my "forethought"
Either that or answer my question.  Why isn't the  "incarnation" and perichoresis
a factor int he epistles and the book of Acts?
 
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:48:57 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
The majority of your questions reflect a great deal of 'absence of forethought', Judy.

David,
I am speaking post DBR; in the book of Acts and in the Epistles we do not find the
great emphasis on the "incarnation" that we are hearing in some circules today.
The apostle Paul preached the cross and spoke to Festus of righteousness,
temperance, and the judgment to come (Acts 24:25) until Felix trembled and put off
dealing with it until later.  Why didn't Paul speak to him of "incarnational ontology"
so that he would feel better and not be so upset?
judyt
 
Judy wrote:
> In the meantime though I would like to ask why
> you and some of the others on TT put so much
> emphasis on the "incarnation" when Paul and the
> apostles preached the "cross"?  Does this disparity
> not ever bother you? Why didn't they go about everwhere
> preaching the "incarnaton?"
 
Judy, the cross and the incarnation is related to each other.  The reason
they did not preach the incarnation per se was because the incarnation of
God was right there among them.  Furthermore, even now, I do not PREACH the
incarnation.  I preach Christ.  However, I might TEACH about the incarnation
to help our understanding of what made Jesus unique.
 
The apostle John wrote:
 
John 1:14
(14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his
glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and
truth.
 
This is the incarnation, Judy.  The Word was made flesh.
 
John also wrote the following:
 
1 John 4:2
(2) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that
Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
 
Do you confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh?  If so, then you too
believe in the Incarnation.
 
David Miller.
 
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