Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language"

Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:00:51 -0800

Here we go again - And who is the one who denied staking everything on translational and Gk
arguments - very, very, recently?.  judyt
 
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:54:47 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 

Here is an approximation of the [NT] biblical language"

 

gar nomoz  tou  pneumatoz  thz   swhzev Cristy  

 

All other words [in  [English]  translation]  are   "non-biblical."

"Incarnate" is no less a "biblical word"  than "in the flesh"   --  nor "trinity " in the place of "Godhead." 

 

Our translations are copies of the original text (as best as we can reconstruct that text) .   The Latin  Vulgate has the same place in biblical history in terms of type and quality as does the more literal of the English translations. 

 

To argue without end over "Godhead" verses  "Trinity"  is argue about nothing.    I have just as much authority to read "trinity" as someone has to read "godhead"   or    "divine nature." 

 

jd

 

 

 

 
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From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On employing 'non-biblical' terminology when speaking of WHO Jesus is: Insofar as the language one chooses accurately reflects the subject under discussion it may be viewed as legitimate, helpful and, even necessary.
 
May I ask that anyone responding to the above take the time to outline their own position on this. 
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Sent: January 14, 2006 08:53
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

I don't know about all that Lance.  What exact part of him are you calling "his humanity"  Is it the body or the soul?
Also what exactly is a "trinitarian nature?"  These are brand new terms someone has come up with. Could this
be called "adding to the Word of Truth?"
 
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:39:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Judy, rightly IMO, has oft spoken of the disconnect that may take place between theologizing and godliness. Conversely, as illustrated in this post by Bill, a more thoroughgoing teaching, along with the apprehension, of the Trinitarian Nature of God ought to issue in that which Jt speaks of. (i.e. godliness)
 
 
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From: Taylor
Sent: January 14, 2006 07:18
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity

BillT wrote: The oneness of God is therefore not a number nearly so much as it is a unity: the unifying
love of God in koinonia -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.


DAVEH responds:   Any room for individuals in that equation?..........The oneness of God is therefore........Father, Son,  Holy Spirit & Bill.

Well, yes and no, DH. I am included in that circle of love in the way that Christ's humanity is included in that relationship. But as the humanity of Christ is not divine, neither am I divine. What I am is included in the humanity of the divine Christ and thus included in the eternal fellowship and community of the Son with the Father in the Holy Spirit. And because of the inseparable union of the person of Christ, his humanity with his divinity, I will forever be included in the loving union of the Trinity, the oneness of God.  
 
Good question, though,
 
Bill 
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Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity


.........Does that work in your theological paradigm?

Taylor wrote:
Moreover, John, if God is love and God is also a singularity, like many people think of "one" in the statement "God is one," then the greatest human _expression_ of that love would be narcissism: extreme self love; for that would be to exemplify the love of God. Instead, God is "one" -- and has been from eternity -- precisely because of the other-centered love which exists between the Father for the Son and the Son for the Father in the Holy Spirit. The oneness of God is therefore not a number nearly so much as it is a unity: the unifying
love of God in koinonia -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
 
Good insight, Dude, I mean Bish; you're on a roll.
 
Bill
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