Thanks for this, DM. Will you now offer up an 'inspired' understanding of WHO JESUS IS? I regard you more highly than some of my 'shots' would suggest. I should be honored to hear you on this.

please,

Lance
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: January 15, 2006 07:46
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Lance wrote:
JT & DM occupy a position wherein they
believe that their 'reading' of Scripture is
'inspired'.

Not quite right, Lance.  I will speak for myself but I think Judy is in
agreement with me on this. I believe that the Scripture is inspired, and I believe that Jesus as per the teachings of Scripture has promised to inspire
the believer.  Therefore, we are promised to receive an understanding of
Scripture by the Spirit.  This does not mean that we do not engage in
uninspired interpretation. We engage in that like other men, but we attempt to forsake uninspired interpretation as a "dead work." We warn others from becoming too engaged in it, and it becoming an idol and substituting for the
promise of Jesus Christ for the role of the Holy Spirit in our lives.

I do not believe that everything I say is inspired, nor do I believe all my interpretations are spot on. However, there are areas of understanding that I do believe are inspired and therefore infallible. For example, my belief
that Jesus is the Christ is infallible from my perspective.

FWIW, I find my position on this much less dangerous than John claiming an
ontological infallibility for himself. Why do you give him a pass on that,
but wrangle over every jot and tittle of what I write?

David Miller


----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences


Any errors in the passage, Dean? No, I know of none. Any errors in the
interpretation, Dean? YES!
Dean:IMO, JT & DM occupy a position wherein they believe that their
'reading' of Scripture is 'inspired'. IMO, they believe that God has
promised such an 'inspired' reading to be available to all true believers.
IFF I've not mischaracterized them (I'm open to correction on this) then,
this is a rather huge error! This is particularly important for DM as he
believes himself to be a 'prophet' of some sort. Also, he is in a position
to influence the thinking of many. All this to say, Dean, that those who
hold to such an understanding are not likely open to any correction
whatsoever. Dangerous stuff, Dean! Therefore, I wouldn't want to dissuade
you from this 'rapture thingy' should it matter much to you.
----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Moore
To: [email protected]
Sent: January 14, 2006 17:09
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences


cd: Well some people are going to be caught up into the air and some graves
or going to open and all are going to be changed in a moments time-that is
what the passage says -do you know an errors in this passage?


----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir
To: [email protected]
Sent: 1/14/2006 10:17:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences


Never fear Dean, it's based on a faulty reading of key texts so nobody's
goin' anywhere. It is kind of on a par with Albert Barnes' reading
concerning the eternality of the Son.

----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Moore
To: [email protected]
Sent: January 14, 2006 10:09
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences





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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences


And where is Terry?   I am not a  student of the "rapture,"  but what if
there is [was] the Rapture?  I mean,  what if it has already occured?
............   Terry  seems to be the only one missing !!!

jd
cd: Hey now-I'm still here also so it didn't happen yet:-)

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

cd: I don't know-but he has been quite lately.



----- Original Message ----- From:
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Sent: 1/13/2006 11:33:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences


..Bro, do you think DaveHs computer crashed again last night? :)

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:26:32 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
,,your doctrine's about like jt's ain't it--sorta like you are among a
couple of ppl whose mind is the God-thoughts of God, 'Immanuel' be damned?

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:19:13 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
are you street preachin' these days?

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:18:12 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
cd:John -not to insult but I think to focus on concernment on you part would
put most of these issues at rest. If you went and asked students at
college:" what do you think the highest level of math is?" I think you would
get different answers as studentsstudents vary in grade levels-would you
then walk away shaking your head saying theses students have been taught
wrong? No, I would think that you would realize some have more knowledge
than others and relate to them in an appropriate manner-even to help the
younger ones understand more-the trick- in my opinion- is to decide where to
start and hopefully one can learn as they seek to help others.The same can
be said here. D.Miller in my opinion could be one of the leading Bible
scholars of our day if he ever outgrew the Church of God-which has trapped
his doctoring and he is blind to this fact-which speaks of pride. Judy and I are caught somewhere between Calvinism and Armenians in our doctrine but we
see this and want it out of our teachings as soon we can- but ar e finding
that the teachings run deep and don't really know how to leave it behind.
The "intellectuals" are trapped in Calvinism toward Catholicism and don't
even know it as they focus on the "dancing around teachings" of Baxter-and
if they did know one would doubt if they would care. Blaine is Mormon in
belief and doctoring and will listen to truth and even agree with that truth
but fail to incorporate that his beliefs. DaveH knows the truth but fear
prevents him from dealing with that truth-the comfort zone has trapped him..
Izzy-in my limited knowledge of her-has a good handle on truth but is
resisted by the flesh. Gary is into Gary.Perry is a great man from my
limited knowledge.  This is all just my opinion given to help-for you and
them not to attack.Note: that I am limited by my bias of self so any
feedback offered would be helpful. The main point is go slow as people are
different but one must know Jesus and the crucified one.


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