Lance wrote: > JT & DM occupy a position wherein they > believe that their 'reading' of Scripture is > 'inspired'.
Not quite right, Lance. I will speak for myself but I think Judy is in agreement with me on this. I believe that the Scripture is inspired, and I believe that Jesus as per the teachings of Scripture has promised to inspire the believer. Therefore, we are promised to receive an understanding of Scripture by the Spirit. This does not mean that we do not engage in uninspired interpretation. We engage in that like other men, but we attempt to forsake uninspired interpretation as a "dead work." We warn others from becoming too engaged in it, and it becoming an idol and substituting for the promise of Jesus Christ for the role of the Holy Spirit in our lives. I do not believe that everything I say is inspired, nor do I believe all my interpretations are spot on. However, there are areas of understanding that I do believe are inspired and therefore infallible. For example, my belief that Jesus is the Christ is infallible from my perspective. FWIW, I find my position on this much less dangerous than John claiming an ontological infallibility for himself. Why do you give him a pass on that, but wrangle over every jot and tittle of what I write? David Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences Any errors in the passage, Dean? No, I know of none. Any errors in the interpretation, Dean? YES! Dean:IMO, JT & DM occupy a position wherein they believe that their 'reading' of Scripture is 'inspired'. IMO, they believe that God has promised such an 'inspired' reading to be available to all true believers. IFF I've not mischaracterized them (I'm open to correction on this) then, this is a rather huge error! This is particularly important for DM as he believes himself to be a 'prophet' of some sort. Also, he is in a position to influence the thinking of many. All this to say, Dean, that those who hold to such an understanding are not likely open to any correction whatsoever. Dangerous stuff, Dean! Therefore, I wouldn't want to dissuade you from this 'rapture thingy' should it matter much to you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Moore To: [email protected] Sent: January 14, 2006 17:09 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences cd: Well some people are going to be caught up into the air and some graves or going to open and all are going to be changed in a moments time-that is what the passage says -do you know an errors in this passage? ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: [email protected] Sent: 1/14/2006 10:17:23 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences Never fear Dean, it's based on a faulty reading of key texts so nobody's goin' anywhere. It is kind of on a par with Albert Barnes' reading concerning the eternality of the Son. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Moore To: [email protected] Sent: January 14, 2006 10:09 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences ----- Original Message ----- From: To: [email protected];[email protected] Sent: 1/14/2006 9:58:12 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences And where is Terry? I am not a student of the "rapture," but what if there is [was] the Rapture? I mean, what if it has already occured? ............ Terry seems to be the only one missing !!! jd cd: Hey now-I'm still here also so it didn't happen yet:-) -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cd: I don't know-but he has been quite lately. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: [email protected] Sent: 1/13/2006 11:33:20 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences ..Bro, do you think DaveHs computer crashed again last night? :) On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:26:32 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ,,your doctrine's about like jt's ain't it--sorta like you are among a couple of ppl whose mind is the God-thoughts of God, 'Immanuel' be damned? On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:19:13 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: are you street preachin' these days? On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:18:12 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd:John -not to insult but I think to focus on concernment on you part would put most of these issues at rest. If you went and asked students at college:" what do you think the highest level of math is?" I think you would get different answers as studentsstudents vary in grade levels-would you then walk away shaking your head saying theses students have been taught wrong? No, I would think that you would realize some have more knowledge than others and relate to them in an appropriate manner-even to help the younger ones understand more-the trick- in my opinion- is to decide where to start and hopefully one can learn as they seek to help others.The same can be said here. D.Miller in my opinion could be one of the leading Bible scholars of our day if he ever outgrew the Church of God-which has trapped his doctoring and he is blind to this fact-which speaks of pride. Judy and I are caught somewhere between Calvinism and Armenians in our doctrine but we see this and want it out of our teachings as soon we can- but ar e finding that the teachings run deep and don't really know how to leave it behind. The "intellectuals" are trapped in Calvinism toward Catholicism and don't even know it as they focus on the "dancing around teachings" of Baxter-and if they did know one would doubt if they would care. Blaine is Mormon in belief and doctoring and will listen to truth and even agree with that truth but fail to incorporate that his beliefs. DaveH knows the truth but fear prevents him from dealing with that truth-the comfort zone has trapped him.. Izzy-in my limited knowledge of her-has a good handle on truth but is resisted by the flesh. Gary is into Gary.Perry is a great man from my limited knowledge. This is all just my opinion given to help-for you and them not to attack.Note: that I am limited by my bias of self so any feedback offered would be helpful. The main point is go slow as people are different but one must know Jesus and the crucified one. || ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
