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Going to the Bible will NOT bring the issue to
resolution, Dean. Judy, DM, Gary, Bill, John, even I, though only on the
rarest of occasions, can muster adequate Scriptural support for a 'view'.
Sometimes that 'view' is God's. Sometimes that 'view' is one's own.
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EVERY VIEW IS SUPPORTABLE, DEAN!! The better
'taught' one is, the more comprehensive that person's presentation
is. This applies equally to right as well as wrong views. IMO, your
view is a wrong view on this matter..
cd: That of course would make it wrong because
it is in contrast to you view?So how do we know which view is correct-go to
the Bible-or some other source?
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cd: Lance you need to recognize that this view is made up of
much study and that I can support it with scripture so it is not something
just spoke off of the top of my head as you seem to suppose. If one is to
evaluate the speaker then one must also consider the speakers past
statements to determine the availability of truth offer by the
speaker.Which statement do you want me to support?
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Key:'I view'. Please take note as all
conversations are similary constructed JT and DM.
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cd: I view the word "unbelief" to portray a larger image
than what has been stated in this discussion. To have unbelief is not
only to reject the person of Christ but to also reject his words which
very clearly points one towards God's law and God's grace. So if John
3:18 is correct then one must receive this larger image if not on new
birth then later at the bidding of the Holy Ghost. Note and point :
One sin can send one to hell if there is refusal of compliance to
the conviction power of the Spirit (1 Cor 6:9)-so be not
deceived-but sin can also make one least in the kingdom of heaven.This
speaks of a personal judgement between the person and
God.
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Sent: 1/15/2006 8:28:37 AM
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If this Victor person is correct and
"UNBELIEF" is the predicament humanity is in then why was the Holy
Spirit
sent to reprove the WORLD (note this is not
just God's covenant ppl) of SIN,
righteousness, and judgment?
(John 16:8) Why didn't God send
Him as an antidote to "unbelief" only if this is the main
problem??
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Sent: January 14, 2006 17:02
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paragraph
in this lecture of Victor's:
I've often said,
too, that the hardest part of any service of worship for the
minister is the children's story, because nearly all the
children's stories here are moralistic bromides. It's just
moralistic bromide. And the Gospel isn't heard because we assume
that children can't understand the Gospel. They can be taught not
to steal, and they can be taught not to swear, but they can't
understand the Gospel. This is ridiculous, but keep your eye on
the Christian education wing of your church or denomination,
because that's where the Gospel goes down.
It strikes
me that street preaching and children's sermons go down the same
wrong path!
Paragraph
from next lecture:
The protestant reformers maintain that the root problem
is Sin and it gives rise to sins. But be sure you know which is
which, or you will never come to terms with the Gospel. Morality maintains that little
"s" sins plural is the human predicament. The Gospel maintains
that capital "S" Sin singular unbelief is the
predicament.
This is
the difference between David's understanding of repentance and
Bill's/JD's.
D
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