Dean, I have never been a supporter of Benny Hinn. I have never been to any meeting of his or met him. I did not even remember until you just now posted this, but my mother did once sing in his choir when he held a healing crusade near her town. As far as I know, this was a one time thing.
In any case, my primary point is that Benny Hinn is not known among Pentecostal circles as an inspired teacher / evangelist. He has a healing ministry. Benny has the tendency to want to be a teacher, but it has gotten him into trouble time and time again because the truth is that his gift is not teacher. You probably thought I was a supporter of him because I have objected to street preachers who go to his crusades to protest him. These are non-Pentecostal street preachers who are filled with envy IMO. Whether one agrees with him or not, the people who go to these meetings are usually those who need healing desperately. The street preachers should not be saying anything that is contrary to faith such that it would hinder them receiving what they need from Jesus Christ. If they want to go and lay hands on the sick there and heal them, fine, but to go and protest is wrong. Even Jesus could not heal many because of the unbelief of the people. Street preachers should not be contributing to unbelief. If their theology about healing is all messed up, they need to fix it, but in the mean time, they should not go out to subvert the way of a minister they don't understand. See Lam. 3:36. David Miller. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language" cd: David I understood you to support B.Hinn-Is your Mother still part of His choir? > [Original Message] > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 1/16/2006 2:28:52 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language" > > Dean wrote: > > Should have left B. Hinn out of It. > > Did you notice how he called him another inspired teacher/evangelist? I > would never describe him that way, and I don't personally know anyone who > would. > > David Miller. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:22 AM > Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language" > > > [Original Message] > > From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Date: 1/16/2006 5:36:40 AM > > Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language" > > > > Benny Hinn, another 'inspired' teacher/evangelist, once said that each of > > the Father, Son and Spirit was a trinity and thus, nine Gods. He also > finds > > himself clever in the questions he puts forward to his hearers. > > cd: Now you have gone and done it Lance :-) Should have left B. Hinn out of > It. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: January 15, 2006 23:10 > > Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language" > > > > > > > The problem with the word "Trinity" is that it assume Three. What do > you > > > do > > > with texts that speak about the Seven Spirits of God? > > > > > > David Miller. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:57 PM > > > Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language" > > > > > > > > > I do not agree. "Trinity" is as much a translation of the concept of > > > "divine essence" as is "godhead" but for theological and contextual > > > reasons. Call it philosophy if you will. The inclusion of "trinity" > is a > > > sound choice if it , in fact, arises from a point of truth. > Equivalency > > > is a word that figures into my discussion. I am sure you understand the > > > implication. > > > > > > jd > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >> The word "Trinity" is not a translation, nor is it a transliteration. > It > > >> is > > >> a word of philosophers, a word constructed by theologians, and it is a > > >> philosophically loaded word. The various words of the Greek language > that > > >> have been translated "Godhead" have at their root the word "theos," and > > >> therefore, "Godhead" is an appropriate translation whereas "Trinity" is > > >> not. > > >> The root for "three" is not found in the Greek language for this word. > > >> > > >> David Miller > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > > >> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:08 PM > > >> Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language" > > >> > > >> > > >> Your response has nothing to do with my comments, near as I can see. > > >> My point is this: every English word in our bible is "added " to the > > >> original text. so you like godhead" and I like "trinity." They are both > > >> translations of the orgiinal word and/or thought. > > >> > > >> jd > > >> > > >> -------------- Original message -------------- > > >> From: Judy Taylor > > >> > > >> Here we go again - And who is the one who denied staking everything on > > >> translational and Gk > > >> arguments - very, very, recently?. judyt > > >> > > >> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:54:47 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >> > > >> Here is an approximation of the [NT] biblical language" > > >> > > >> gar nomoz tou pneumatoz thz swhzev Cristy > > >> > > >> All other words [in [English] translation] are "non-biblical." > > >> "Incarnate" is no less a "biblical word" than "in the flesh" -- nor > > >> "trinity " in the place of "Godhead." > > >> > > >> Our translations are copies of the original tex t (as best as we can > > >> reconstruct that text) . The Latin Vulgate has the same place in > biblical > > >> history in terms of type and quality as does the more literal of the > > >> English > > >> translations. > > >> > > >> To argue without end over "Godhead" verses "Trinity" is argue about > > >> nothing. I have just as much authority to read "trinity" as someone has > > >> to read "godhead" or "divine nature." > > >> > > >> jd > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -------------- Original message -------------- > > >> From: "Lance Muir" > > >> > > >> On employing 'non-biblical' terminology when speaking of WHO Jesus is: > > >> Insofar as the language one chooses accurately reflects the subject > under > > >> discussion it may be viewed as legitimate, helpful and, even necessary. > > >> > > >> May I ask that anyone responding to the above take the time to outline > > >> their > > >> own position on this. > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: Judy Taylor > > >> To: [email protected] > > >> Cc: [email protected] > > >> Sent: January 14, 2006 08:53 > > >> Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS > > >> NOT > > >> DIVINE > > >> > > >> > > >> I don't know about all that Lance. What exact part of him are you > calling > > >> "his humanity" Is it the body or the soul? > > >> Also what exactly is a "trinitarian nature?" These are brand new terms > > >> someone has come up with. Could this > > >> be called "adding to the Word of Truth?" > > >> > > >> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:39:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" > > >> writes: > > >> Judy, rightly IMO, has oft spoken of the disconnect that may take place > > >> between theologizing and godliness. Conversely, as illustrated in this > > >> post > > >> by Bill, a more thoroughgoing teaching, along with the apprehension, of > > >> the > > >> Trinitarian Nature of God ought to issue in that which Jt speaks of. > > >> (i.e. > > >> godliness) > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Messag e ----- > > >> From: Taylor > > >> To: [email protected] > > >> Sent: January 14, 2006 07:18 > > >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity > > >> > > >> > > >> BillT wrote: The oneness of God is therefore not a number nearly so > much > > >> as > > >> it is a unity: the unifying > > >> love of God in koinonia -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. > > >> > > >> > > >> DAVEH responds: Any room for individuals in that equation?..........The > > >> oneness of God is therefore........Father, Son, Holy Spirit & Bill. > > >> > > >> Well, yes and no, DH. I am included in that circle of love in the way > > >> that > > >> Christ's humanity is included in that relationship. But as the > humanity > > >> of > > >> Christ is not divine, neither am I divine. What I am is included in the > > >> humanity of the divine Christ and thus included in the eternal > fellowship > > >> and community of the Son with the Father in the Holy Spirit. And > because > > >> of > > >> the inseparable union of the person of Christ, his humanity with h is > > >> divinity, I will forever be included in the loving union of the > Trinity, > > >> the > > >> oneness of God. > > >> > > >> Good question, though, > > >> > > >> Bill > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: Dave Hansen > > >> To: [email protected] > > >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:41 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> .........Does that work in your theological paradigm? > > >> > > >> Taylor wrote: > > >> Moreover, John, if God is love and God is also a singularity, like many > > >> people think of "one" in the statement "God is one," then the greatest > > >> human > > >> expression of that love would be narcissism: extreme self love; for > that > > >> would be to exemplify the love of God. Instead, God is "one" -- and has > > >> been > > >> from eternity -- precisely because of the other-centered love which > > >> exists > > >> between the Father for the Son and the Son for the Father in the Holy > > >> Spirit. The oneness of God is th erefore not a number nearly so much > as > > >> it > > >> is > > >> a unity: the unifying > > >> love of God in koinonia -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. > > >> > > >> Good insight, Dude, I mean Bish; you're on a roll. > > >> > > >> Bill > > >> -- > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >> Dave Hansen > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> http://www.langlitz.com > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >> If you wish to receive > > >> things I find interesting, > > >> I maintain six email lists... > > >> JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, > > >> STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >> dangerous content by Plains.Net, and is > > >> believed to be clean. > > >> > > >> ---------- > > >> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > > >> know how > > >> you ought to answer every man." 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