I can't relate to your observation at all.  I don't see it.  In fact his actions belie devotion to orthodoxy.
Which of the church fathers do you think would give the Mormon boys on TT freedom to operate in the same town let alone on any bandwidth they controlled?  They would have been hunted down as "blatant heretics" just like you Gary, John, Bill et al are trying to brand me right now.  So your speculations about what he does with his family and his flock are just so much hot air.  I am sure he loves them and gives them time
and space to grow.  I see the fruit of his labors in his daughter Christine and all of it so far good.
 
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:20:18 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DM is most definitely a 'locker inner' of the first order.
He does it with Gary, John, Bill et al. He probably did it with his family. He probably does it with his 'flock'.
 
Well that is your own personal opinion Lance.  How is it you expect perfection from DavidM? 
Why not give him some space?  There is just once source of ALL truth Lance and I expect
DavidM is still learning by going to that source just like the rest of us.  Why do you want to lock
him in when he has never done this to the rest of us?  Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is
the liberty not to have to be the "expert"  You just say what God has shown you and ppl either
accept it or they reject it  ... the outcome is not up to us.
 
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:58:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DM is, IMO, intentionally elusive. At times he appears almost duplicitous, saying one thing to one person (you) then appearing to contradict that thing through what he says to another (Bill Taylor). 
 
I believe them rather than constantly wrest them like some on this list do Lance.
You have a whole list of things that should be of concern to DM and if he were not so grounded
in his faith the attitudes of you and JD toward him personally would top the list
 
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:36:27 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE SCRIPTURES, JUDY!! This ought to be a matter of some concern for DM, whom I suspect knows this.
 
Oh Lance, the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree does it.  You are a true child of the Orthodoxy you serve.  This anxiety about some ppl not being able to handle scripture is what led to the "dark ages"
when it was chained to the pulpit because of fear.  Have faith in God.
From: Lance Muir
 
It may be 'that no (wo)man is an island' yet, does every 'island' produce its own theologian. The DM's (2) need be remindeded that the Scriptures in the hands of some can be dangerous. 
 
cd: Only if that scripture is wrong and takes away from what the words mean-but if it is used to explain the existing truth-it is not only not dangerous but divine Lance.I am not the first to make the below statement.
Lance wrote:
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The rationality of "God" -- nonsense
You are the ONLY ONE I have ever met who believes that Adam and Eve were not flesh and
blood but "spirit beings" before the fall  ------------   the only one.
cd: John I contend that A&E were more than just flesh before the fall-I view them as being's of light.The same light that shown from Moses face after he came into Gods presence also.Don't get me wrong the flesh existed but the sin didn't. I farther contend that Adam saw Eve in her fallen state and chose to eat the apple to be with her out of love-if not she would be forever lost to him.He came from being able to name all the animals on earth-a genius- to dying spiritually (light went out) and hiding from God for fear and shame.
 
 
 
 
 

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