No, Bill is using the Bible to correct
you, and to exhort you to change your mind, Judy.
You don't have
understanding of the Bible Bill. You are using Words to make
everything biological completely missing the main point.
Sin is a spiritual issue with a
biological ripple effect generationally. God is a spirit.
Satan is a
spirit. Sin/righteousness are not a biological
issues.
You want to spiritualize the Seed doctrine,
when the Scriptures tell you that Jesus is the Seed of David
according to flesh.
Sperma isn't the only
kind of seed discussed in scripture Bill and I am not taking
anything out of context in order to "spiritualize" it. The
order is first the natural and then the spiritual.
Adam/David are the natural. Jesus is the Promise which is
spiritual. The first Adam was a living soul. The
second Adam is a life-giving Spirit.
And if it is according to the flesh that
Christ was born, and this of David's seed, then what flesh do you
think John is speaking of when he ascribes the spirit of
antichrist to those who deny it? I am not making a bigger deal of
this than I ought, Judy. I want you to have every opportunity to
know and understand the error of your doctrine, because, believe
it or not, it does make a difference how you answer the question:
"Who do you say that I am?"
I don't now and never
have denied that Jesus was given and walked about in a flesh body
Bill. What I do deny is that is was a SINFUL AND FALLEN flesh body
exactly and in every way like those He was sent to
redeem.
Please don't let your disdain for people
(and this your elder brothers in Christ) cloud your ability to
affirm truth when it is presented to you.
I reject the
accusation above since I have no disdain for persons - only the
doctrines that do not conform them to godliness and holiness .... You know Bill God juxtaposes
the two kinds of seed in Genesis 3:15. I wonder whose loins
the seed of the adversary came
through.
They (feminine plural) came through
the loins of Adam, just as did every human being who came after
him. All that Adam was capable of producing after his fall and
subsequent removal from the Garden was human beings destined
to die. Yet for some reason the first fallen words out of his
mouth -- that is, after their encounter with God -- were ones
which changed his wife's name from "Woman," the one who had been
made from his flesh, etc., to "Eve," the mother of all who live.
So are you saying the
Gen 3:15 prophecy refers to Eve rather than to Mary or to both of
them?
Judy, if Jesus is not of Eve's
blood then she is not his mother. Her flesh is not his
flesh and her "Seed" (masculine singular) does not reach him. The
truth is, however, that it does! Adam was privy to something
that you deny. He calls her the mother of all the
living.
It is
possible to be biolgically living and still be spiritually dead
Bill.
Something was going to spring from her womb
that was going to justify life for all life. Follow the Seed
promised to Eve throughout the Old Testament and you will discover
an amazing story. Let that Seed pass through Seth, and Noah, and
Abraham, and Jacob, and Judah, and David, and let it find
fulfillment in the womb of Mary, and you will begin to realize the
promise. But spiritualize it into abstraction and you could end up
missing it all. Bill
Noone is spiritualizing
anything into "abstraction" Bill. Are you willing to let God
be God or not? Jesus did not come to make some biological statement - or to carry
demonized humanity off to heaven. He was pure and holy at
his birth which is a claim NOT ONE OTHER biological human being has been able to
make since Adam fell and this includes John the Baptist who
was spirit filled from his mother's womb.
When God sent Jesus believe me
He was not making a BIOLOGICAL STATEMENT and striving over
words
while clinging to erroneous
doctrine only makes it worse. Why did Jesus say to
Nicodemus:
"If I have told you earthly
things and you believe not, how shall you believe if I tell you of
heavenly things" (Jn 3:12).
