He does not have a human father Bill; he was fathered
by the Holy Spirit and the family he was born into is that
of Abraham/David. Why are you so adamant about
what you can not possibly know. He was born holy. David was
not
(see Psalm 51:5) "Behold I was shapen in iniquity and
in sin did my mother conceive me" So Bill are you saying that
Jesus was born from natural seed and inherited the
"iniquities of the fathers" also??
I have no problem whatsoever with the Seed having a spiritual element,
Judy, but that is not the issue, is it? Do you deny that Jesus' "flesh
body" is of the genetic material of Abraham and David?
The seed to whom the promises were made is SPIRITUAL SEED Bill and the second Adam is
spiritual also (see 1 Cor 15:45,46). Please don't try to make it something it
is not. Abraham BELIEVED God and it was counted to him for
righteousness. His sperma who thought they
all had it made in the shade got a rude awakening in John 8:33; Jesus burst
their bubble so to speak. The seed of Abraham
are the children of faith or "spiritual seed" see also Galatians 3:29. I
am not saying that Jesus did not walk around in a flesh body as the gnostics
of John's day did - so please do not bring out the old red rebellion flag once
more because it is getting quite wearisome....
I have no problem whatsoever with the Seed having a spiritual element,
Judy, but that is not the issue, is it? Do you deny that Jesus' "flesh
body" is of the genetic material of Abraham and David?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:03
AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ,
the Root and the Offspring of David
Bill you have a Greek gospel because your faith
rests in Gk words .. I wonder, are all Greeks
saved??
Jesus Christ is who His Own Word says he is whether
or not orthodoxy agrees and whether you see it or not. Right
now you are attempting to validate the pronouncements of orthodoxy
which is the religion you hold to.
The seed to whom the promises were made is SPIRITUAL SEED Bill and the second Adam
is spiritual also (see 1 Cor 15:45,46). Please don't try to make it
something it is not. Abraham BELIEVED God and it was counted to him
for righteousness. His sperma who thought
they all had it made in the shade got a rude awakening in John 8:33; Jesus
burst their bubble so to speak. The seed of
Abraham are the children of faith or "spiritual seed" see also Galatians
3:29. I am not saying that Jesus did not walk around in a flesh body
as the gnostics of John's day did - so please do not bring out the old red
rebellion flag once more because it is getting quite
wearisome....
"I am
the Rhiza ('Root' or
'Life-source') and the Genos (from
which we get 'gene' and 'genome,' hence 'Offspring') of
David."
Indeed, Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man -- he
is both the Maker and the receiver of David's "genetic" material.
Likewise, "Before Abraham was I AM," and "Now to Abraham and his
Seed were the promises made; he does not say, 'And to seeds,' as of many,
but as of one, 'And to your Seed,' who is Christ."
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006
10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The spirit
of anti-Christ
Precisely!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006
9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The
spirit of anti-Christ
'..I am [the Root and ] the
Offspring of David..' --
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