Dean, what is your definition of sin and would you please give me a few examples of "sin."
You say in this post that before your being "born again," you had no choice but to sin. So, are you saying that the person outside Christ HAS to commit adultery when faced with that temptation? That, when faced with the temptation, an unbeliever HAS to drive drunk?
What is your definition and and some examples, please.
jd
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From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > [Original Message]
> > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Date: 1/30/2006 7:48:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?
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> > I'm not caught up on reading, but I just have to say, Judy, that you are
> not
> > hearing Bill properly. He did answer your question. Many heresies
> sprang
> > up and those who wrote in the first few centuries after the Biblical
> writers
> > addressed these heresies. You personally don't understand this because
> you
> > are not well read in the church fathers.
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> cd: I don't think you are hearing us properly David. WE/I am sayin g that
> Christ did not appear in our heathren state-He appeared in the state we are
> after salvation nor before salvation. As a born again believer I have flesh
> and blood I can choose to sin-but chose not to-I am a spiritual child of
> Abraham due to abdoption from the heathen state-I was changed to become
> more Christ like. Jesus did not lower himself to that level to become a
> heathen.
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> > Also, the Biblical writers were not negligent about the relationship of
> > Jesus and the incarnation. There is at least as much about that as there
> is
> > about his Divinity. That is why Christianity divided so much over
> exactly
> > who Jesus was: God or man. Well... he was BOTH! Duh.
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> cd: But there is also much about His divinity also David.We are not saying
> he wasn't flesh and blood- you seem to think He re duced himself down to the
> lowest state of sin -where we were. Yet he clearly states that Satan had no
> claim on Him.
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> > Everybody is just describing two sides of the same coin and trying to
> claim
> > that the other side is lying about what the coin actually looks like.
> Hold
> > a coin up right now, Judy. Describe its face to yourself. Then have
> your
> > husband describe the tail side. Do this while you both are looking at
> the
> > same coin. Do you both describe it the same way? No. Why? You are
> both
> > looking at different sides. That's what you and Bill are doing in this
> > conversation. Please TRY to hear what Bill is saying. He is using
> Bible.
> > Deal with that
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> cd: We don't think you guys are clearly/accuritely describing you side of
> the coin. When we l ooked at your side we find you are mistaken -we saw that
> your side was cleaner-with more beauty than what you described to us.
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> > David Miller.
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