Judy wrote:
> David, I don't see the immaculate conception and
> the assumption of Mary as divinely inspired ideas;
> both are the thinking of religious spirits through men
> of the cloth.

I'm glad to hear that, but history tells us that those who embrace the 
premise which you have will be forced eventually either to abandon their 
premise or accept the logical consequence of their thinking that Mary 
herself had to be different too.

Judy wrote:
> Also I believe that going on and on about David's
> genitals is equally bizarre.  What is too difficult for
> God?  Does he have to do things the same way
> every time?

We must start with the premise that God did it this way because the Bible 
teaches us that he did it this way.  Then we seek to understand it.  As we 
do, we come to an understanding of justice and God's legal system that helps 
us understand it.  We also come to understand the full extent of salvation, 
and how salvation culminated at the cross, but was not entirely accomplised 
only by what happened at the cross.  There is so much more that could be 
said, but not enough time to say it all.  My point is only that God could do 
it in many different ways, but we are taught in Scripture how he did it.  We 
should accept that.

Judy wrote:
> Scripture says Jesus was born of the woman and
> he was born pure and holy - without the taint of
> the first Adam.  This is what I believe.

The last part, "without the taint of the first Adam," is not in the Bible. 
It is your interpretation of the word "holy."  My perspective is that the 
taint of the first Adam being resident within the physical body does not 
automatically make a person unholy.  Else, how could John the Baptist be 
filled with the Holy Ghost from his mother's womb?

As for the rest of what you said, I agree.  Jesus was born of the woman and 
was pure and holy.

David Miller 

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