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Dean, as far as my posting on 2Pet 2.1-22 is
concerned, I posted the verses which served to establish a context in terms of
its referents. I left most of the verses out because they rested upon other
verses to supply an antecedent. I clearly stated in my address that this was
what I was setting out to do. Surely you can understand that my objective was
not to make a biblical argument, but to trace the referential context of verses
21-22 (the verses you quoted).
Bill
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:59
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Dean writes: Bill for some reason I
think you know what I am saying to be the truth . . .
Dean, with all respect,
you are not in a position to make such a determination, as you have not
examined the argument from my perspective. Yours is a different paradigm
altogether, one which functions from within the Calvinist-v-Arminian
tradition. The thing you do not realize is that your position is only
relevant from within that debate. Arminianism is a notable response to
Calvinism, yes; but, at its core, it operates on the same set of
assumptions, merely playing the role of antagonist. But what if the
assumptions of Calvinism are wrong? What if they are off base? What if they
do a disservice to the God of Scripture? Quite frankly, you will never know
it, because yours are the same presuppositions as those of Calvinism
-- unless, that is, you open yourself to a new set of
presuppositions. I have been fortunate to examine those
tired assumptions and, with the help of some wonderful teachers, have
found them wholly inadequate to address the "who" of Jesus Christ. Hence, as
I told you before, I am uninterested in this debate, 'cause I've
already been there, my friend, and done that.
Bill
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cd: Respectfully Bill-From my perspective you stated that I was
lucky you didn't join the debate until now-then when I respond you give a
tragic event story of your father and yell at me -Then send some
passages to offer support which were altered by you (v.20)-to which you
still haven't explained.Then you state I have had this discussion before so
I will not do so now but I was right before so one should take my word for
truth now. Now your students get nasty with me. This is sounding
strange to me. By the way the heck with Cal-Armin. views-what does the
Bible say on this subject?
Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold
fast, and repent.
If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Ask yourself this :
1 What was heard?
2 What does hold mean?What are we to hold fast to-and how
does one not hold fast?
3. What does repent mean? And repent of what?
4. Why would Christ warn about coming as a thief? Does he
make this "thief" claim elsewhere in the Bible to tie thought
together?
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