Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

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<cd>holy is used  as nearly synonymous with good, pious, godly.<cd>   'nearly synonomous', above, cd, means in context that English strains but suffers lacking linguistic prowess to transmit 1:1 the Spirit's meaning (of, e.g., 'holy')--basically, that God is holy can't be thoroughly expressed, merely alluded to while human analogies ain't able to capture in the Word's words its essence, prophetically or otherwise   therefore, by (lack of) definition, humans who require (be)for fellowship other humans to be holy as God is holy simply do not know what they're talkin' about   &, while God legitimately requires that holiness, that holiness that can't be expressed in English, God is also willing to make (his) holiness a lower priority for now than fellowship (with him) partic while makin' room for his love, mercy, grace, etc., in Christ   (italicized are similar eschatological words to holy/holiness that suffer currently while we speak of/with them)   in sum, while John Wesley & Daniel Webster were contemporaries & also lived in the era of the profound philosopher I Kant himself, none of these great men ever pinpointed denoted connoted & internalized the exact eschatological & miraculous wording & message of the Bible--they, like us, approximate its truth (partic about holiness) both mentally (perhaps abstractly) & physically (in weariness), & since their day we've learned more about our comprehensive ignorance of such Truth, e.g., that even our computerized dictionaries grind to a halt suffering for lack of such wisdom in the essential JC himself       On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:39:25 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ----- Original Message ----- From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/8/2006 11:08:02 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd) "Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied .. :   'See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone..[but]you, dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit. Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life. Be merciful ..show mercy..'"  --Jude     ..ftr, everyone, all of whom will see the Lord, above, either enjoys fellowship with Him or don't care about it--as someone said, 'you gotta serve somebody..'   in this vein, holiness in biblical terms (of 'holy faith' in JC & praying 'in the HS', above, as JC did & 'being merciful' & 'showing mercy, above, contrary to desire of those who don't care about JC himself) developes in fellowship with JC himself   holiness is neither a moral prerequisite to fellowship nor a legitimate Wesleyan theological legal obligation germane to sanctification   ------------------------------------------------------- cd: Below is the definition of what Holy means-notice the keeping of the divine precepts (not to be mistaken with the divine dance) which are commandments and also I sent the definition of "Unholy" (ie.sinful). G. I hope you receive the English language-in fairness Holiness includes what you correctly stated but not limited to only that. Thanks bro Holy HO'LY, a. 1. Properly, whole, entire or perfect, in a moral sense. Hence, pure in heart, temper or dispositions; free from sin and sinful affections. Applied to the Supreme Being, holy signifies perfectly pure, immaculate and complete in moral character; and man is more or less holy, as his heart is more or less sanctified, or purified from evil dispositions. We call a man holy,when his heart is conformed in some degree to the image of God, and his life is regulated by the divine precepts. Hence, holy is used as nearly synonymous with good, pious, godly. Sinful SIN'FUL, a. [from sin.] 1. Tainted with sin; wicked; iniquitous; criminal; unholy; as sinful men. Ah, sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity! Isa 1. 2. Containing sin, or consisting in sin; contrary to the laws of God; as sinful actions; sinful thoughts; sinful words. ------------------------------------------------     On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 21:47:48 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ||   quite simply holiness[..]is not a prerequisite to fellowship with JC, it is an eschatolog ical blessing   ----- Original Message ----- cd: Heb 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which *no man shall see the Lord*