[Original Message]
From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: 2/12/2006 8:22:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.
IFO could read more than a little 'woman bashing' herein, David/Dean. I
don't believe that either of the two of you would as, IMO, you both adopt
a
more traditionalist understanding of the role of
men/women..husbands/wives.
cd: Respectfully Lance-Our goal is to conform to the biblical roles that
God placed on men and women as not to cause confusion-but to keep the
separation between spoken of by God in a high level of importance.One
example I can give of this is for a man not to dress as a women and for
the
man not to dress as a women as this leads to confusion? Don't homosexuals
do this? What difference do you see between the sexes in their respect
biblical roles?Or should this separation be placed on a low level of
importance?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: February 12, 2006 08:05
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.
> Thank you David for this.
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Date: 2/11/2006 9:37:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.
>>
>> Lance wrote:
>> > And do you not know that you are an Eve?
>> > The sentence of God on this sex of yours lives
>> > in this age: the guilt must of necessity live too.
>> > You are the devil's gateway: you are the unsealer
>> > of that tree: you are the first deserter of the divine
>> > law: you are she who persuaded him whom the
>> > devil was not valiant enough to attack. You
>> > destroyed so easily God's image, man. On account
>> > of your desert - that is, death - even the Son of God
>> > had to die. ~ Tertullian, Second Century
>>
>> The context of this is from a paragraph about modesty in apparel
becoming
> to
>> women. The quote stops short in that some sentences later, he
concludes
>> this train of thought by saying:
>> "Accordingly these things are all the baggage of woman in her
>> condemned
> and
>> dead state, instituted as if to swell the pomp of her funeral."
>>
>> So he was not denigrating women here. He was establishing some
> historical
>> guidelines, expounding upon the judgment of God toward the woman which
> said,
>> "In pains and in anxieties dost thou bear (children), woman; and
>> toward
>> thine husband (is) thy inclination, and he lords It over thee."
> Tertullian
>> quoted this passage just before the quote given by Debbie above.
> Tertullian
>> then goes on, based upon the writings of Enoch (which he holds to be
>> Scripture but recognizes that the Jews did not because they did not
think
>> such writings could survive the flood, but Tertullian believed Noah,
> Enoch's
>> great grandson, to have taken it with him in the ark), to argue that
> women
>> who wear mascara and jewelry and fine ornaments were taught this by
>> the
>> angels that had sinned and come down and married women. He points out
> that
>> these same angels are the angels that we will judge, and if we will
judge
>> them, what is it that women have to do with these things they brought
to
> us,
>> being consumed with putting on makeup on their face, or coloring their
> hair,
>> or wearing fine jewelry. He points out that these are things of the
> earth
>> and nothing that women of God ought to be concerned with. Then he
points
>> out that the promise of judging these angels also is given to women;
>> therefore, they ought not be involved with these things that were
>> dishonoring to the Creator. Tertullian writes:
>>
>> "For you too, (women as you are,) have the selfsame angelic nature
> promised
>> as your reward, the selfsame sex as men: the selfsame advancement to
the
>> dignity of judging, does (the Lord) promise you."
>>
>> Such a statement is along the lines of there being no male or female
>> in
> the
>> eyes of God. It is an empowering statement, that women will be made
> judges
>> of angels on an equal level with men, so the quote taken out of
>> context
> to
>> make Tertullian look like a woman basher is erroneous. Debbie would
>> be
> wise
>> to hear the end of his conversation.
>>
>> David Miller.
>>
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