David,  we are not talking about "curiosity."    We are talking about grossly inappropriate and even deceitful behavior.   Leave it alone.  Stick to discussion issues and leave personal BS endeavors alone. 
 
Your closing sentences are deceptive AT BEST, David.  There is nothing that I have said about my service as pastor that would cause you to believe it necesssary to stick your nose into my life.   Why would you think my credentials as pastor are with Four Square? And why would your curiosity cause you to think that you  should take time out of your sales day  to research my background in this regard and even contemplate calling some of these individuals !!   What were you going to ask or say to them?  Since it is about me,  I think that I should be the first to know.............................  or is this something that fundies simply do not believe ?  I would argue that I have been more forthright and open, in this forum, that anyone else.   You certainly have not been such.  Many claims  -- little to no evidence.   And when asked for specifics  --  more talk and no evidence.   Now, do not come bac k with your typical host of challenging questions?  I do not care about your life and whether or not you are factual in your presentation.   I did make a big deal about your PhD thing, but that was because you finally got me angry with your constant put downs about my ability to write and my education. 
Turns out you didn't have one.  but you did appear before a PhD review committee, right?  And one of those porfessors, what was his name again,  ruled against you because of your creationist views.  You want to do tit for tat.  .......  best be careful , you just might get your tat in a wringer. 
 
I became a pastor, David, when you were four years old.   Once a pastor  --  always a pastor. But I am "papered"  with an evangelistic association, as well.   My best work is with the Fairbanks Avenue Fellowship,  Their number is 559- 875-1465.  Give tham a call.  You might recognize the number BECAUSE IT IS MINE!!    
 
So move on
 
John
 
 
 
 
 
 
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> JD wrote:
> > It's just surprising to realize that David took
> > time out of his busy day at the Univerisity and
> > software sales to research as much as posible
> > his old buddy, John Smithson.
>
> LOL. John, I did not research "as much as possible" or I would have made
> phone calls and found out a whole lot more. Then I would have REALLY
> dazzled somebody. As it is, when you mentioned Sanger, it only took me a
> few minutes to look up the pastor of record for Sanger Foursquare Church.
> I'm just not sure if that is your actual church. I was not real comfortable
> calling him without talking to you first. I was not sure how you would feel
> about that. Do you attend this church, or another one in the Fresno area?
> You were the one who brought up your speaking from a leadership position,
> hence my curiosity.
>
> David Miller.
>
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