Gary-Here is a though for the wise: In the event spoken of in 1 Thess:4 The brethren are called up and Christ does not come to earth-In the return of Christ (end of trib)-He stand upon the mount of Olive and a great valley is formed. Two separate events.Also if a Mexican said On' delay which means hurry-can you say that the word "Hurry"is wrong because it wasn't in the Mexicans vocabulary? Being seized up(caught up) means rapture.I for one believe that you are smarter then you act on TT bro-but your dislike for me leads you into mistakes.
 
 
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the issue you're pressing now relates to 4:16, doesn't it?
 
"there's nothing private, quiet or secretive about the resurrection, below--this is the biblical resurrection in Christ,
a noisy event God stages; also, there is no NT word 'rapture' which means the 'rapture' doctrine is extra-biblical--
it ain't there"   -  g
 
 
 
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:20:49 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
..How about you explaining 1 Thess.4:13-18...
 
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myth (there's nothing private, quiet or secretive about the resurrection, below--this is the biblical resurrection in Christ--a noisy event God stages; also, there is no NT word 'rapture' which means the 'rapture' doctrine is extra-biblical--it ain't there)
 
 
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:01:18 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

I wonder if Lance..believe[s] that Christ already returned in the first century

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cd: It is the rapture that Lance doesn't believe in Christine.

 

 

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1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

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