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Follow your conscience, Dean. Sometimes your
conscience is directed by God but, sometimes....
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Sent: March 06, 2006 20:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of
truthtalk?
cd: Is speaking of the greatness if Christ "objective" to you
Lance? That is what I we do. Would you like to come and hear me speak-or
Kevin? He is Just across the falls and I will meet you there? We only
encourage others to come to Jesus-why are we wrong to do so?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 3/6/2006 12:23:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit'
of truthtalk?
Me too, Dave. When TRUELY OBJECTIONABLE
BEHAVIOUR is objected to (by 'acting out') these persons occasionally do
seem surprised.
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Sent: March 06, 2006 10:43
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit'
of truthtalk?
DAVEH: OK Dean, I understand your sensitivity to such
and will respond without using the words you find objectionable. I
would like to continue to discuss this, as I find it interesting to see
how SPers think.
I am curious as to why one
would still show up on somebody's doorstep when an objectionable topic is
mentioned rather than discuss it with them via the phone or email?
What is to be accomplished by a personal visit? Most folks would
understand such a visit to be a physical threat, even though it could be
claimed that the offended has a constitutional right to confront the
offender.
The reason I ask this is because it
seems to me that many SPers seemed surprised that they are physically
attacked when confronting sinners on the streets. Yet they feel
compelled to stare the jaws of death (so to speak) in the mouth. Is
this a martyr complex of sorts? Does it give SPers confidence if
they are persecuted for the Lord's sake ? I suppose an argument can
be made that if one dies while in the service of the Lord, it would be a
feather in the cap of the persecuted while at the same time driving the
persecutor even deeper into hell. To me that seems like rather odd
logic, considering that the SPer (or guy showing up on the doorstep) is
somewhat a catalyst in this scenario. IOW....Is a SPer guilty of
promoting a problem when he uses his constitutionally guaranteed free
speech to aggravate a situation that can and will likely turn to
violence?
Dean Moore wrote:
Moderator: Wouldn't have to show up in Portland
DaveH-all I would have to do is click a button and my problem is solved
and that is exactly what I going to do the next time you use the
words-****************** in the combination that you used them below.
Discussion over-warning given!
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Original Message -----
Sent:
3/5/2006 12:52:41 PM
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
DAVEH: Dean, from what you
said previously about the oneness of husband and wife, if I were to
ask you about ************,, you would take that as a personal
attack on ****** and would then presume it to be a personal attack on
you as well, and then proceed to come to Portland and show up on my
doorstep.....is that correct? Wouldn't it be smarter just to say
the same thing to me via email or a phone call, rather than show up on
my doorstep? What would be accomplished by coming to
Portland?
If I were then to assume
you are on my doorstep for a reason other than an amicable discussion,
and felt my life was being threatened by your presence on my doorstep,
I would probably not answer the door. Wouldn't that just
frustrate your reason for going to all that effort, cost, time and
travel in an effort to come to my doorstep? Would you proceed to
pound on my doo r expecting me to open it? If I did not respond
to your pounding, then what would you do? And if you continued
to pound on my door, what would you do if I opened it with a gun in my
hand, as I might do if I perceived you as being a threat to me in my
home?
At that point, if you turned
and left, nothing else would happen and you would have spent a lot of
effort for little reason other than to satisfy your pride. If on
the other hand you were to raise the level of confrontation by
arguing, and if I misunderstood the reasons you were on my doorstep
confronting me and refusing to leave, would you be surprised if it led
to a lethal action on my part?
IF that above
scenario were to occur, how do you think the law would view this
matter? Would I be found guilty of manslaughter, or would you be
guilty of threatening my life to the point of my using justifiable
lethal means in self-defense? In my defense, I'm sure my lawyer
would quote your comment..... ...
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