Yes, I do think Roman Catholics are in a perilous situation, but I do think they can get saved in spite of their bogus doctrines. I do not think you can accept the tenets of Mormonism and get saved--they are antithetical. You cannot believe in multiple gods and the One true God at the same time. iz
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian? Many Christian sects, such as Baptists, do have false prophets. I'm talking about the pastor who misinterprets the Word of God. I was given the left foot of fellowship from a Baptist pastor once over the fact that I speak in tongues. Nevertheless, you make a good point about how Mormonism has something else that many other Christian sects don't have. What about Roman Catholics? They recognize several other books of Scripture, and they have a much more active prophet than the Mormons, called the pope. Do you think this puts them in a perilous position? Also, another question for you: Despite the false prophet and false Scripture, is it possible from your perspective for any of the Mormons to be saved? In other words, despite these issues, is a Mormon able to have faith in Jesus Christ? There is nothing in these Scriptures that forbid them from applying faith in Christ. It is a little different than the Qur'an, isn't it? David Miller. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian? If I may say so, no they do not have a false prophet and a false bible, as do mormons. They are not an idolatrous religion. What individual members do is an entirely different subject. iz -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian? The thing is, some Baptists, some Methodists, some ... name your favorite sect of Christianity, also are not what you are. Some of them worship idols too. Do you agree? David Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian? I do not put any special emphasis on using the term christian. Whatever you may say I am it is definitely NOT what DH is. Call it what you want. FAITH vs IDOL worship? Does that work? David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kevin wrote: > Do you see Jesus & Paul using your > Dictionary definition of Christian? Jesus never used the term Christian and never even heard the term "Christian." Paul was known as a Nazarene (Acts 24:5) and he offers us no definition for the word Christian. I see the word as refering to those who profess to follow the teaching of Christ. People can argue about whether others actually do follow Christ or not, but that seems to me to be another debate. When more than 80% of people in the United States identify themselves as being a Christian, it seems to me that it would not be very productive to spend our time trying to argue with them that they are not really Christian at all. Does being a Christian save anybody? No. Faith in the person of Jesus Christ is what saves. I think that gets lost when we focus too much on the sect of Christianity and its rightful definition. Do you think that there is something holy or special about the word "Christian" for the Bible believer? As for Anti-Christs being Christian, well, of course that will be the case. Judas Iscariot was a Nazarene and look how he turned out. Should we expect Christianity to be pure and void of any Judas Iscariots? I don't think so. David Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian? Do you see Jesus & Paul using your Dictionary definition of Christian? Under this definition then, a decieved one who follows ANTI Christ is truly a Christian! 1) He truly Believes he is worshipping Jesus Christ 2) He truly believes the one he is following was sent by God 3) He follows his teachings and example But in reality he is a hell bound sinner. Help me contextualize, this apparent contradiction David Miller wrote: Judy wrote: > What reason would anyone on TT have > to assume that a lifelong Mormon is also > a Christian? Following is how my dictionary defines a Christian: Chris.tian noun (plural Chris.tians) 1. believer in Jesus Christ as savior: somebody who believes that Jesus Christ was sent to the world by God to save humanity, and who tries to follow his teachings and example If we accept the secular definition of believer as somebody who believes in the teachings of a particular religious faith, then from my perspective , Mormonism falls into this category of Christian. This does not mean that they have the right belief system, or that any of them will be saved. It simply places them in the Christian category, as a religious sect that is centered on the idea that Jesus Christ is the Savior sent by God to save humanity. There are false sects within Christianity, and I think the Mormon sects are among them. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." 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